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Obama bugged Trump Tower before election

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Very ugly and likely criminal if true...

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    Interesting maneuver from the Trump team.

    It may end up backfiring, if people view it as more evidence that something shady was going on there at Trump Tower.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-wire-tap-trump-tower/?utm_term=.4b017f0ef773

    So, either the wiretapping claim is bogus, Obama committed a major abuse of power, or they knew of something serious going on there that gave them probable cause to carry out the surveillance. One's political leanings will probably determine which of those three one believes happened.
     
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    I wish we could eliminate the links to the obviously biased sources around here. NY Times, WashPo, HuffPo, CNN, Daily Kos on the left, and Breitbart, etc on the right. These sources have migrated in recent years to be unreadable due to their obvious bias.
     
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    What does Russia think about it?
     
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    Well if Donald tweets it, it must be true :rolleyes:
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-obama-idUSKBN16B0CC

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...es-obama-of-wire-tapping-provides-no-evidence

     
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    And you are part of the problem. Typical biased ploy to put the "according to..." part where you did. Notice that you didn't put "Trump accuses Obama of...". So, you complain about biased sites but start by using a completely biased thread title. Irony!
     
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    First-

    Trump provided NO EVIDENCE. However it was obvious he was getting his information from Breitbart who had just published a conspiracy theory story yesterday.

    No credibility there.

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    It could be possible that BREITBART (not Trump who was just referring to the article) got their ideas from this FISA request. Which is actual evidence we could talk about-

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    This "Evidence" would suggest that it wouldn't need to be Obama acting "Criminally" ala Watergate. He had probable cause to do so legally with accordance with the Intelligence community.

    So nice try to deflect Donald..... this is only going to make you look more guilty bringing light on the fact that you had more connections with Russia that actually warranted a FISA request. What a stupid stupid political move to bring more light to the Russian scandal. Most people probably had no idea about the ties to Russian banks & the fact that the Obama Admin had "Evidence" that warranted a FISA request. Unbelievable how he's stepping on his own toes here.
     
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    It has been confirmed for years that Obama wiretapped Angela Merkel, Benjamin Netanyahu, Associated Press reporters, members of Congress, and many many others. This news that he wiretapped Trump isn't surprising at all. It is entirely consistent with his past behavior.


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    And he lives.
     
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    Presidents wire tap. How is this news? Go look up how the Bush admin abused their power that was given post 9/11 when the gloves came off, and they were able to wire tap galore. I'm sure Obama went to town wire tapping too, but in this case he has the FISA request as backing which pretty much gives him probable cause which is probably rare in the world of Presidential wire tapping.

    Funny thing is though... Are we going to be naive in thinking that Trump wont be wire tapping himself? Why would he want to bring more light on this? Its only going to bring more light on it, and have the Intelligence community more guarded in helping him abuse that power. Why would a President want to go after another President for wire tapping when they know they will want to abuse that same power in the near future themselves? Trump only hurting himself here.
     
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    Who cares about this? I'm much more interested in his tweets berating Arnold.
     
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    lil tex, you calling anyone or anything biased is so rich. You are such a gullible buffoon to swallow this hook, line and sinker.

    You should already know by now any inflammatory statements from Trump that have no evidence are guaranteed lies.

    Learn this lesson m'boy: Wait for the facts.
     
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    el presidente trump trying to change the subject lol... does this guy even have a credible source to back that claim up?

    we've gotta deal with this moron for 4 more years holy ****
     
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    This will probably backfire.

    Like how Trump called out Schumer, and Schumer offered to speak under oath and to the public about his meetings with Putin, will Trump do the same?? No response from Trump lol.

    Unfortunately for Trump, a warrant has to be issued to wiretap and that means a court approved this.

    By the way, what does he have to hide again in said wire tappings?
     
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    Intelligence Community are allowed by law to "wire tap" foreigners (ie Merkel, Netanyahu, etc). This happens every day for national security purposes. But if an American citizen begins to speak, they must hang up. UNLESS, they have a warrant. Then they can continue to listen and transcribe the conversations.

    Wire tapping can only happen with a warrant. I guess the judicial system is in on it. Conspiracy theorist!

    Which begs the question, Flynn's conversation transcripts were said to have him discussed about the sanctions regarding Crimea. If the IC has transcripts, THAT MEANS they had a warrant to listen onto Flynn (an American citizen). Warrants like these are not issued lightly so there was enough concern for them to do so.
     

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