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Obama bugged Trump Tower before election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Mar 4, 2017.

  1. Chilly_Pete

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    Agent Orange's morning tweet made this claim.

    why doesn't he, as the POTUS, ask the intelligence community to disclose that warrant, to see the rationale for the tap ?

    just my guess;
    the warrant may show more details of "the Trump campaign in bed w the Russians"​
     
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    Thread title should be changed to "FISA court approved FBI request to monitor Trump campaign communications with Russia"

    Amusing that Republicans are outraged today that the FISA court would approve the monitoring of an American citizen. What happened to "If you did nothing wrong you have nothing to fear!" or "this is about the security of America!"

    FISA requires probably cause that the subject is an agent of a foreign power, be it a government or terrorist organization. So Donald has confirmed for us that the FISA court felt there was probably cause to show that at least a few members of his team were potentially agents of Russian intelligence, even if unknowingly.
     
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    Dems are trying hard to spin!

    As noted, Obama was a well known wire tapper during his time in office. He was very embarrassed when the Germany tapping was made known...
     
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    This times a million--I hope Julian Castro or one of his PAC's uses this when he runs on the democratic ticket in 2020.
     
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    We absolutely need a full investigation into every aspect of these alleged wiretaps.
     
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    Just to be clear, as a non-Democrat that is not in favor of Trump...

    1) If Obama did order surveillance of Trump without a warrant, that should be a crime and he and anyone who participated should be punished
    2) If surveillance information was given over to political operatives to use against Trump during a campaign, that should also be a crime and anyone who participated should be punished
    3) If there was a warrant for surveillance on Trump, given everything that has gone on now, we should have a special prosecutor at this point evaluate everything and issue a report to Congress.
     
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    Surely all can agree that spying on a political opponent is the lowest form of politics. Can you imagine the outrage if Bush had spied on Obama before the 2008 election? This is no different.

    As the stain of the Obama presidency is wiped clean, his remaining operatives in government and intelligence are fighting to their death. I look forward to what dirty deeds by the Obama administration will be uncovered. It won't be pretty.

    STAY TUNED
     
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    Oh, I disagree. The thread title needs to stay EXACTLY the way it is. Anytime he cries about bias, refer to this thread.
     
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    Deflection. Sad.
     
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    If he did bug trump why didn't he leak it to the press that the FBI was investigating trump for Russian ties? That would have helped Hillary.
     
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    Just like the 3 million illegal tweets right?

    Psych eval stat please.
     
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    Pretty bizarre how someone can be concerned about this, and not concerned about the clear Russia/FakeOrangeRepublican connection.

    I hope you Trump supporters leave your Republican card behind when he gets booted from office, If you haven't already. Real Republicans want nothing to do with you.
     
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    A Federal Judge has to approve a wire tap, this would mean that there was enough evidence to approve the tap, which means that Trump was thought of as a national security risk by a federal judge.

    DD
     
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    From a Tweet by... damnit, forgot the source- oh, well, the nature of the game these days:

    By confirming it publicly, Trump has also pretty much guaranteed no one can be charged for leaking the existence of this FISA warrant. Oops!
     
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    The only person more obsessed with Obama than bigotexx is his boy Donald Trump. *snicker*
     
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    THIS IS HOW FISA WARRANTS WORK, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS. AN INDEPENDENT FEDERAL JUDGE REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE AND DEEMED IT TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. PRESIDENT OBAMA DIDN'T CALL SOME "PLUMBERS" TO INSTALL A WIRE. I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW BLATANTLY MISLEADING THIS THREAD IS, YOU'RE REALLY SLIPPING TEXXX.
     
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    I agree, If Obama did have spy equipment illegally installed then there should be a criminal investigation. However we are talking about Donald Trump. Thus the likelihood of it being true is less than 1%. He and his administration is the least honest administration in 150 years.
     
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    Wonder Twin Bullshit...

    ACTIVATE
     
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