Says one of the most obsessive Trump/far right/conservative/Republican haters around here. If you aren't far left then I dunno who is. I guess in your eyes... people who don't think Trump is Hitler and semi agree with him on a few things, who openly say they don't support him.... are far right alt right radicals who want to put people not like them in internment camps. While everyone who gets on here and crusades against the evil Dorito Hitler on a daily basis, to an obsession, are... moderates. Does that sound about right? Yeah pretty sure you've lost the mark son. Good luck to ya.
Well if he and others are far left then surely you’ll admit to being far-right, correct? There isn’t another poster on this site that defends just about anything Trump does as much as you (despite not being a Trump supporter lol), and apparently half of the country is far-left since they also think Trump is a racist. Also is it a defense mechanism to call other posters son or kid? I know you’ve been having trouble defending your support of Trump lately, but that’s no reason to resort to condescension.
Well, thinking he is racist isn't a sole criteria... not sure where you get that logic, or lack of logic, from. Also I am not far right. I know my views better than you and considering that I don't support Trump on everything, yeah I'm not his supporter. I've said it for many many reasons that I don't support the dude. I just don't think he's Hitler. So no I reject your argument that I support Trump and that I am on the far right. Specifically far right views, by definition, I am not. I don't support extreme nationalism (America is a melting pot and should continue to be), and I not anti-immigration (I've gone in depth into why I oppose illegal immigration but strongly support immigration here legally), and I don't support authoritarianism. I've stood against such things in the past, in particular the expanding security state and the Patriot Act. And pretty much all of Bush era policies. I also reject all of the following: Nazism, chauvinism, racism, and actual fascism. I also reject communism and socialism, which has led many to label me far right. I am more of a libertarian than anything, closest to a minarchist which keeps with the liberal tradition.. one who wants just the minimal level of govt intervention necessary to function as a state, so that right there throws your thesis out the window, mate. I am staunchly against the Republican and Democratic party... always have been. Not a fan of Trump, but amused definitely at how he has worked people into such a tizzy. I don't think the world is ending because of him, I don't think he's going to be a dictator, and I don't think he is going to accomplish much. I think that because I don't express extreme hatred of someone you and others hate, you've misunderstood my position. It's really not my problem if you choose to ignore the truth when a person is telling it directly to you.
What is it about Trump that has caused so many people to have this reaction to him? What had he done that has more than half the nation believing he's a racist? Conversely, what has Trump done to cause a tiny minority of his supporters to commit violence in his name, when no other recent presidents have inspired that?
You're all lookin' to argue with a Trump supporter, because I know there is a lot of soreness about losing the election still, but you are really just fooling yourselves if you think that's what has transpired. Thinking he isn't racist definitely isn't lending support. It's just arguing about one aspect of the Trump issue because I find it interesting how people see what they want to see, despite any solid proof of his racism. I can't answer your questions here, but I've gone in detail in the Trump is not a racist thread. If you go there, you will find answers. As for your last question, specifically, I think that's a loaded question. I don't think he alone causes violence. People made those choices because of sour ideology and mental states, and I would first blame the media and most major U.S. politicians, and Trump included, for ratcheting up the tensions in the political arena. Outside instigation from places like Russia and other enemies is also at play I think, as they are able to spread stories in ways meant to fan the flames of hate on the left and right. We are in the middle of a cluster ****, and the blame is not solely his.
This reminds me of the "Can you name one newspaper, that you read?", Palin gotcha journalism, and this: Trump celebrates the guy's (leans back, palms out) entire catalogue.
I really don’t know why I continue to interact with you. In my opinion, you are intellectually dishonest about your support for Trump. You talk about being amused at how Trump has people in a tizzy while ignoring why people are in a tizzy. By the way, what a person says they believe doesn’t always match up with what a person does. For instance, the only time you come out against Trump seems to be when someone calls you a Trump supporter. At the same time you start a thread about Trump not being a racist and essentially just dismiss the reasons people think he is, and reiterate that you simply believe differently than us. Oh, and apparently everyone is a little bit of a bigot, and every politician is a liar. It seems disingenuous. You always seem to find reasons to excuse Trumps behavior while simultaneously claiming to not be a supporter of his. Once again, your actions betray your true position despite what you claim. Act differently and maybe people will start believing you. And how can you be against things like naziism and authoritarianism, but not come out and denounce Trump for engaging in behaviors that are sympathetic to these things? Instead you make excuses for him or say that you don’t think he does those things, all the while ignoring reasons to the contrary. As an example, can you tell me how Trump has not exhibited authoritarian behavior, or explain why he continually makes “jokes” about being in office for 14 years, or how he seems to love to support authoritarian regimes (Russia and North Korea come to mind)? Why do you not start a thread decrying this? Instead you choose to start a thread that defends Trump...
I wasn't trying to argue. I was asking for your thoughts about why they are the way they are. I'm not saying Trump caused people to do the acts of violence in his name that they have done. But I was asking why you think that no other recent presidents had people commit acts of violence in their name but now Trump has had multiple people commit acts of violence in his name. He may or may not be responsible. But something has changed that we have multiple occurrences of this now when we had zero before. Maybe if we looked at the causes of it, we could do something to improve the situation.
