https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-feb-9-2022-edition Here’s a breakdown of Rookies of the Year in relation to some other major hardware: • Twenty-eight of the 78 players who have won (or shared, with four ties) ROY went on to get an NBA championship ring. • Seventeen of those 78 players were named MVP at least once. • Of those 17, the 14 who are eligible all are in the Hall of Fame: Bob Pettit, Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Dave Cowens, Bob McAdoo, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, David Robinson, Shaquille O’Neal, Allen Iverson and Tim Duncan. The other three still are active: LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose. • Breaking it down another way, 17 of the 35 Most Valuable Players – that’s the number of players who have collected the league’s 66 MVP trophies, led by Abdul-Jabbar’s six – started out as Rookies of the Year. • Twelve ROY winners have been named Finals MVP at least once in their careers. That spans 32 players who have accounted for the 53 awards.
Hakeem Olajuwon did not win the Rookie of the Year, but he's better than all those MFers you listed. Take that for data. There I said it. Deserves its own thread......... ....discuss.
This is some high end data journalism, enough with the Python scripts Steve! English please! Steve Aschburner has written about the NBA since 1980. You can e-mail him here, find his archive here and follow him on Twitter.
Crawford joined the league a year older than Green and still averaged 4 ppg on 35% shooting and 41% efg% his rookie year. Don't know why people continue to make such shitty comparisons to put down players that are on their own favorite team they supposedly root for. Crawford didn't match Green's rookie scoring impact until he was 23, 3 years into the league. So stop it.
Not sure of the relevance of the Rockets being my favorite team that I root for, honestly. My statement doesn't mean I'm rooting against Green being successful. Crawford is who he reminds me of, and is the caliber of player I think he's most likely to be (which, by the way, wouldn't qualify as a bust). Hope I'm wrong and he ends up being an all-star. Everyone should take my opinion here with a grain of salt, by the way. I'll admit I haven't watched him play all that much since the first few months of the season.
You just regurgitated your opinion. I'm explaining to you why it's a dumb opinion. So again, explain how you can say that Green is looking like nothing more than the next Crawford when 20 years old Crawford averaged SIGNIFICANTLY less points on SIGNIFICANTLY less efficiency than 19 year old Green.
Green came in as a starter from day 1. I'd expect him to have a higher usage and put up better looking numbers, on that basis. He also had the benefit of playing in a pro league the year prior, even being younger. My comparison is based on the type of player and skills he appears to have, and what I think (based on limited info) I think he's most likely to develop into. A good, starting caliber player, potent scorer, but not an all-star.
Yes yes yes..... we know we drafted the wrong player. Replace "bruno" with "green". Or just move on......
Green played in a 17 gleague bubble games. Honestly a full college season would be more beneficial to development than a half assed bubble tournament. If you see Green as the same caliber of player as rookie Crawford and use usage as an excuse for far superior pt production, that doesn't account for Crawford averaging 4ppg on SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE efficiency. That implies that if he had ramped up his usage and attempts, his efficiency would have just been even worse creating a even wider efficiency gap. Crawford has no where near the physical talent that Green has.
What do you think is the most likely path for Green's career to take? Do you think it's more likely than not that he becomes an all-star, for example?
