Will Military members and families vote for Trump?

Retired military, and I will not vote for Trump. I can't stand for a man that divides our country. One thing I learned from 20 years of working with people from all walks of life is that we can all learn to respect each other and work together to achieve goals. No matter how different we may seem, we can learn from each other, and do great things when we make the effort together, vice divided.

Trump is all about dividing people, bullying those who disagree with him. He doesn't talk to, and try to understand why people are angry, hurting, scared, or suffering. In my eyes and heart I can't stand for a leader like that.

 

Just to throw out a number I would guess a +10% swing to Biden would be the upper limit.

 

What this translates when it comes to voting, who knows.

Article is from December 2019.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...ppy-with-trump-new-military-times-poll-shows/

 

I never considered myself either or really, but did vote Republican in the past.

 

Retired military...I’m not sure the military leans either which way. There are some that definitely make it known that they lean a certain way, but I think that’s about the same as the general public. For instance, I once thought that the military tended to lean right, especially the officer Corp, but I was surprised at how many military members came out in support of Hillary during the last election.

As far as me, recent events haven’t changed my mind, I’ve always been anti-Trump. I mostly leaned Republican until halfway through W’s 2nd term...eyes started opening to what exactly the GOP stood for at that point. Won’t even vote for any GOP candidate now due to how much the party has capitulated to Trump and their base.

 

What service were you in? I was Navy.

 

Old vet here. Orange man all the way. He’s not done yet, give him a chance and you’ll see. Forget all the rough talks, crassness and uncivil behaviors, sometimes the right man for the job is an acquired taste.
BTW-Military is a community just like in the civilian world, you have people with all sorts of political stripes. Mostly, we keep it to ourselves, just take orders and keep our eyes on the missions.

 

When I served, I was pretty naive and green behind the ears. As the years passed, I quickly realized the military is just like the civilian world, you’ve got to play balls(politics) to get ahead. These leaders can say whatever they want about Trump, but if you saw the cultures what I saw when I was in, you’ll take their criticisms with a grain of salt. That does not mean you don’t have honorable military leaders who speak out when they think something is wrong. Nowadays, it’s hard to say, there are so much noise and fake news, one gets fatigued and that’s why I just take it in strides. However; I’m keeping my eyes on Trump though and making sure he’s fulfilling his promises.

 

This vet and his family want..

T_Man

 

I doubt Trump supporters abandon him until the Rush's and Hannities of the world turn on him.

 

I didn't even know he posted in this thread - I put him on ignore

 

Ok, you got me. You think he’s the devil and I don’t. So what, life goes on, you’ll do you and I’ll do me, fair enough?

 

Will any of the votes be counted accurately?

Rocket River

 

he is shockingly unpopular with the military considering he is republican and the military leans heavily towards the GOP.

i never served, but i have several people close to me who have or are active duty including a couple high ranking officers with multiple tours in afghanistan and iraq under their belts...they hate trump. the two words used most to describe him are "narcissist" and "a**shole". again, i never served but the characteristics the military embodies include self-sacrifice, teamwork, honor, integrity, discipline, honesty, commitment, ect...trump embodies NONE of these and they definitely take notice.

fat-boy said john mccain was not a war hero b/c he was captured. then he attacked a gold star mother...the mother of a slain marine. marines are probably the most tight-knit branch of the military and when he did that he lost many of them forever.

trumps habit of announcing policy via tweet is a major problem for the chain of command. officers are constantly having to tell their troops to ignore the president and that its not official policy until their hear it from their CO's. think about how absurd that is.

there is probably a wide gap b/t his popularity among officers vs non-officers...but again, the fact that a republican president is as unpopular as he is in the military overall says a lot.

 

I was responding to your post in a polite and civil manner and you got to throw some insults around. If you want some circle jerk, why ask for another opinion? If you don’t agree with someone, don’t engage with him if you can’t refrain from personal insults. It shows me that you lefties are very fragile emotionally. I have seen you pile on people you disagree with, calling them racists on a consistent basis, crapping on Trump every post and thread that you’re in. I have never gone after any of you for any of that, and label you guys as troll, caricature, instigator etc.... Why are you guys being a bunch of insecure sissies? It’s a lot more fun being on a place with diversity of opinions then in a place where you have to march in locksteps. Thanks for letting me know who you are and I’ll just put you on ignore.