Was Raid On Sean Puffy Combs's Homes Excessive Use Of Police Force

I don't know anything about it, but it isn't my usual practice to fret about the treatment of the rich and powerful by police. He's got the best lawyers money can buy, he doesn't need me.

 

Mo money mo problems
@Os Trigonum

 

Find me a poor defenseless black person getting trampled roughshod by the system and I'll take it seriously. Guys like Puffy and Trump that get crosswise with the police act offended they would be treated like criminals even when they are and think everyone should care about their sorry megalomaniacal asses. I don't.

 

The prosecutors, and the police that executed the raid had to go before a judge and show probable cause. They legally had to make the case, and show evidence that if they served a normal subpoena instead of a raid, that evidence of a crime would be destroy.

Did police on the ground conducting the lawful search use excessive force???... I don't know but I haven't seen evidence of that. They had to know the media would be covering it, and so I doubt the officers would be dumb enough to make themselves the story here.

Excessive force typically happens when the cameras are off or when the police know they will face no scrutiny. Sometimes a George Floyd moment happens on camera because some police officers think they are above scrutiny, or they think what they are doing is perfectly legal though.

So I guess show us the documented evidence here if you have it. I haven't seen it yet though. What I do know though is that there surely seems to be pretty significant evidence that the DOJ have that PDiddy committed some pretty serious crimes, and is likely to get indicted soon.

 

Fair enough. If you have a link to the thing "someone else" said, that would add to the conversation (a quick google search didn't yield me anything). But I'm pretty skeptical because Combs has a lot of fans and I'm sure someone is going to take his side and cry racism even without or despite of evidence. It seems like some conspiratorial thinking to presume some racism was manifest because Combs was black and 'you know how cops are', even if you can't prove it.

 

The general issues is that White Scum gets better treatment than non-White Scum
Which generally means getting off, lesser sentences and not even reputation assassination
Easier for them to come back from their Scummy behavior being exposed

It's racism . . . its privilege. . .. its still wrong
but
it is easier not to care because their all scum

Check it. The build in abuses and biases of a system accumulate over time.

So it's cumulative
Which is why your statistics mean nothing

Rocket River

 

Privilege. Do you know what the biggest privilege out there is? Being born in the United States of America. It instantly puts you in the top 2% globally in terms of opportunity and access to resources. Which makes people look really misguided (and ignorant) talking about racial privilege when they are born with an advantage over 98% of the world... Go visit the slums in Asia, Africa, Central America, etc and come back and tell me that you are the victim of not having "privilege".

 

So people should accept second citizenship?
Is that what you are saying?

Accept less in the same place time and circumstance because
its better than another place, time and circumstance?

Really?

Rocket River

 

@Jontro

 

You achieve what you work for in this country -- pretty simple. The sooner the excuses stop, the better everyone will do. The sooner we stop treating people as groups, the better everyone will do. But until then, we are all in the top 2% globally in terms of opportunity. Change the victim mindset to a growth mindset and all boats will rise.

I fire people who see themselves as victims -- don't want them on my team. I want people who will work hard and persevere through the hard times.

 

Nigerian immigrants who come to America do no view themselves as victims thus they are the most successful


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Oh this guy too, moved to Houston and dominated his field


@Jontro

 

we had a nanny from Côte d'Ivoire. she lived in Harlem, and was quite dismissive of "black Americans" (her term).