u.s.s. liberty - new revelations on 1967 attack by israel

Again, I think I am reacting to the words in your posts. Read post #40 where you talk about how the Liberty is a good reason to withdraw support of Israel.

I'm just reacting to what I am reading.

And you seem to be swinging anti-Semitism as a club to ward off arguments more than anybody else in this thread. You just do it the other way around. If anybody questions your position they are calling you an anti-Semite and so are bigots.

Please show me where I said you hate Israel.

 

Can you show me where anybody said that? In my re-reading of this thread from the beginning to the end, I think you are the only one who is throwing around the epithets.

You didn't use the exact word but that is how I read this comment:

So then you retract the following sarcasm?

And what I am saying is that I believe that the strength of your opinion is affected by your distaste of the current US-Israel relationship.

 

I'm really confused... how is that taken out of context? You say 'at the least it seems like we should not be ... ; if not based on this thread's topic then based on what? We give plenty of nations billions... you didn't just happen to mention in this thread that at least we shouldn't be giving Egypt billions of aid....

 

I have no problem saying that I think the U.S. should cut non need-based foreign aid to Egypt. I really don't think we should be 'buying peace' between them, I think both countries have been at 'peace' long enough now to not go to war with one another any time in the foreseeable future. Moreover, Israel and Egypt are progressively strengthening their bilateral relations on the economic front, and if Hosni Mubarak's son Gamal ends up taking over government when his daddy bites the dust -- almost certainly going to be the case -- then I imagine Israeli-Egyptian relations are in no danger of 'deteriorating' anytime soon. If anything, Gamal has a 'vision' of an economically-integrated Middle East patterned after the EU model, and he envisions Israel to be a major part of that.

 

Certainly a topic worthy of discussion, but I'm not saying I disagree with Egyptian aid; I'm just emphasizing the point that jo mama didn't just decide to mention Israeli aid out of thin air but because he felt it related to the topic at hand.

The EU market model (including the Palestinians) would be outstanding, imo.

 

Understood, I just thought I would elaborate on that a little bit.

 

Which just feeds Ottomaton's point that you have another agenda driving your post.

 

You can deny it but when you interjected your opinion about current relations into the thread it makes a pretty convincing point that the two are linked in your head, especially when you later acknowledge there isn't any relevance between the two. Your earlier stream of consciousness rant shows that you do connect the two, so his point seems likely valid.