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Two Year Budget Deal, yay or nay?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, Feb 7, 2018.

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Approve of the budget deal?

  1. 4 - really approve

  2. 3 - it's okay

  3. 2 - not okay

  4. 1 - Hate it!

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  1. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Contributing Member

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    This seems like an Oprah deal where everyone gets something. Rolls back sequestration so that there's actual funding. Pee Partiers are crying about it, but they'd cry about any budget bill that doesn't involve sitting other people's throats while pretending to hold their breaths and shutting down the government.

    Libs just talked about raising the debt with cuts. This will likely raise our debt but we'll have better things to sell and pawn off such as fixed up roads and infrastructure. Options you wouldn't have if you lived in a shithole.

    Positive note is that both parties actually passed something substantial.*

    summary: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/us/politics/budget-deal-trump.html

    *I jinxed it. ****
     
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  2. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    It's probably a good thing. I think it uses whatever powder Democrats have left, but the recurring budget crisis is really dysfunctional so I'm pretty good with fixing that.
     
  3. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

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    I become more and more convinced I'll see the end of the US as the major power in the world. Lets all have our cake and eat it too.

    Doing away with the constant budget crisis is great, but to do so we end up just spending like we don't give a damn.
     
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  4. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    There definitely needs to be another shoe to drop. We can't reduce taxes and increase spending and think everything is fine. But, I'm fully expecting Republicans will come back later with massive budget cuts to everything except military to match our spending to our lower revenues.
     
  5. No Worries

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    Government by Crisis is over over for the next two years.

    I know the House Dems wanted DACA (plus Dreamers), but the House Repubs will not vote on anything immigration related while they control the House.
     
  6. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    I don't think that's true. Republicans have been stalling a liberal immigration agenda for a long time so they'd be able to fix it the Republican way when they have power. They have it now, and probably should use it before potentially losing control of the House in 2018. If they want stronger enforcement, curtailed legal immigration, a shift toward merit, and a stupid wall they'll need to pass something. And DACA is the carrot they have to try to buy some Dem cooperation. If they grant relief to 2 million dreamers but manage to remove 10 million, they'll call it a win. So, I think they'll deal. They just need to undermine whatever leverage Democrats have before they sit at the negotiating table. The budget impasse was the Dems' biggest lever.
     
  7. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    So we are cutting taxes and increasing spending. Again why do that during a boom period? You should do that during a bust period to stimulate the economy.
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

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    Interesting photograph. Shows that once all the partisan stuff gets put aside, they are adults, co-workers, Americans...

     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    I worry more and more about a generational war between the boomers vs millennials.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    One is walking with his down like a beaten dog

    Rocket River
     
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  11. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Contributing Member

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    Boomers better hope robots will pick up their **** and diapers
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    Ok. So how are they going to Blame the democrats for this?
     
  15. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Contributing Member

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    Hillary Soros and their leaked Russian papers.

    Comrades Unite!
     
  16. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    They never need common sense on Fox and Friends. Just you watch.

    "Hold my beer," the producers are telling you, even now. LOL.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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  18. edwardc

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    Belive they will somehow someway they will make sure that the Dems get the blame for the brief shutdown.
     
  19. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    I understand the Republican aversion to domestic spending. What I have not understood is the feeling among Republicans that we need to spend more on the military. I know the liberal strawmen, but what's the reasoned argument?
     
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    The party of fiscal responsibility is in charge. How dare you question their tactics!
     

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