Trump Supporters (or anyone): Is Character Important?

A man of impecable character - but the right hated him because he is a black man.

DD

 

'Trump has a total lack of decorum and all my political opponents are racist' - DD

I got no problem with him insulting his political opponents who insult him. go to town. its not like it affects anyone.

lolz. what?

 

And Republican senators and Congress calling Obama a Muslim terrorist sympathizers communist who is a citizen of Kenya with significantly less credible information.

And as usual, you ignore the meat of my post because you don't want to have a good faith discussion.

 

If Obama wants to call them names back then go to town. WTF do i care. Again , it affects nobody. In fact he quite often mocked those who claimed he was born in Kenya.

what part of your lengthy emotional rant would you like me to respond to?

 

Don't be a stupid person.

DD

 

Any of it in good faith without resorting to memes or a throw away comment. You know, quote relevant parts you disagree with and explain it and I'll try my best to counter or if your argument is solid I'll concede to that point. You know... like a Debate and Discussion.

 

I did. you made some comment about celebrities insulting other politicians so i corrected you and stated I was referring to politicians and not celebrities (though truthfully i am fine with him insulting either) . You whined, so i asked you to pick.

 

I'm reffering to this part that had nothing to do with celebreties:

It's easy to tell when you aren't debating in good faith dude.

 

If Trump loses prepare for the real fun.

 

This refers to celebrity insults which i addressed.

Dems calling the president a Russian puppet fro three years divides the country. Obama calling his opponents bitter clinger racists divides the country

'And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.'

Hillary called trump supporters deplorable.

insulting unpopular opponents riles up the base. Thus why Obama and every politician before him does it.

you want me to debate the economy in this thread? pass

he doesn't call the media 'enemy of the people' because they insult. he calls them that because they lie. What percent of the 2018 voting electorate thought Trump was a Russian puppet? 50%? It was all lies spread by the media. They mislead American voters. Thus why he calls them that. I have no problem with it and agree with it. In a rational world, people like you and DD and others on this board would be pissed at the media that you got duped.

This is why I don't respond to you long temper tantrums. It takes too long and they are meaningless. Make your point succinctly or don't make it at all.

by whom?

insulting our media has no bearing on this. If are referring to insulting a foreign government, then tell me what insult you are referring to and what affect it had.

 

Well said. I couldn't agree more!

 

Quite the opposite. I think Trump's voters liek the fact that he responds in kind to his political opponent's insults. I think their mandate was to stand up to them verbally and politically. He was doing it when they voted for him. I think AOC's voters want her to act the same way.

Its not semantics.

FIFY

 

I think you very well know that Trump ramps up that divisive level of discourse to extreme levels on a constant daily basis. That is the the most critical comment Obama has made of a certain demo of Americans. Trump makes claims about Americans who disagree with him far more frequently and with far more vitriolic language. "Enemy of the People" is one of the most vitriolic terms a president can use to describe the press. And yes he describes any entity that criticizes him "Enemy of the People". He calls factual reporting "enemy of the people". It doesn' matter if the media he is labeling "enemy of the people" are factually accurate or not. That isn't his filter to determine what is and isn't the "enemy" HIs filter is purely centered around media that is critical of him.

Look, you are way too far down the rabbit hole if you think all his ties with Russia are "fake news". Imagine a hypothetical scenario where right before an election, Obama was making deals with Iranians for a massive resort in Tehran. Imagine if Obama had a billion dollar investment banking account with a foreign bank that was accused and fined 20 billion dollars for money laundering for the Iranian businessmen who have ties to the government and Obama's account was flagged by employees of the bank with signs of money laundering which the bank executives ignored. Imagine if Obama sold real estate property to known Irianian mobsters at twice the value. Imagine if Obama hired multiple high level campaign staffers that were investigated previously by the FBI as potentially speaking with Iranian spies. Imagine if Obama's future national security adviser before he was inaugurated lied to the FBI about meeting Iranian diplomats about lifting sanctions with Iran that the current administration just put in place? What if Obama had his daughter respond to an email that had in its message " This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Iran and its government’s support for Mr Trump.” with "I love it"?

Ask yourself honestly if you would hope the FBI and Congress would investigate those as he might be the next president of the United States?

I can see the premise of the "Russia hoax" being all fake news to you is central in your premise to defend Trump's divisive nature.

 

then that's the mandate from his voters.

Not if it brought the company tons of money and support. Also are you claiming Trump has said this? or are you just making a random example?

 

Hillary had a dubious character. She wasn't a self proclaimed, thin skinned sleazebag, but she wore her hard fought elitist title like a mink fur coat even after blood was sprayed onto it.

Two party system ftw. It relies on the behavior of people accepting and growing to like their choices after the fact.

Anyways, in the post Trump world, you'll have conservatives becoming the most sensitive and whiniest people about decency (even more than now). They made their beds and they're already anticipating payback. Payback in this case isn't even damaging... more likely guilt for playing with fire, opening Pandora's Box and grabbing it without abandon.