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Trump Quits Fox News After Network Shows Him Trailing Joe Biden In Polls

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by T_Man, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. conquistador#11

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    I'm very curious to see what percentage of all republican voters go to the Trump News Network vs Fox (which already makes up a huge percentage of repub voters.)[/QUOTE]
    90% of them. Did you hear this where rubio wants to rebrand the gop to the party of the working class
     
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  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    in the end, running a network is a business, and the guy has failed repeatedly in making real business decisions and running things (like a casino).

    he was very successful with the apprentice because someone else did all the work in production and key decision-making.

    so, it will come down to him being able to hire good people to run things. o_O
     
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    i'm game to work for the new network if it pays well. getting paid to write fiction is great.
     
  4. mdrowe00

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    Agreed.

    ...that's been a lingering problem here with only two viable political parties to realistically contend for political offices (at any level of governance).

    More than a few people hide out in one or the other party, and generally wind up making the bulk of the noise if the adults in the room can't tamp any of them down.

    @Nolen, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on what I'm going to present to you here, and assume you're more inclined to objectivity about something like this than many of us are.

    Consider something for a moment.

    (Or two...sometimes I can be a bit long-winded here...)

    ...if you look into America's grisly racist past (specifically for my presentation, the first half of the twentieth century), you can find any number of photographs of black people that have been murdered - lynched - by mobs of white people.

    If you've got the stomach, take a good look at this photograph.
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    What do you see?

    You see a bunch of people standing around posing for a picture with the mutilated remains of other human beings...as if they'd just hunted down and killed some lions or tigers out on the Serengeti. Some of them are even smiling.

    Now, I'm sure someone could (and would) make the argument that not all of those people are "bad" or "racist" or "evil" or "stupid".
    Someone could (and would) make the argument that those people are simply a product of the times in which they lived.
    Someone could (and would) make the argument that those people are people who were good to their families. Or went to church every Sunday and were law-abiding citizens and loved their country or whatever else...

    Not everybody in that photo brought a rope. Not everybody in that photo carried a stick. Not everybody in that photo so much as raised a hand of any kind in the perpetrating of this.

    How could you tell which was which, though, from a photograph like that?

    Would it even matter?

    ...whenever I hear somebody make excuses for people like this...in this day and age especially...

    ...whenever I hear somebody start trying to change the subject or cover up a mindset like this or dismiss it or allow for it or support it in any way...

    ...(and it doesn't matter to me if they're black or white or asian or gay or straight or purple or furry)...

    ...THIS is what I'm reminded of.

    You can't stand that close to something like this and convince me that you're much of anything other than some murderous f@ck.

    And that's what people who can follow along with someone like Donald Trump (winking and nodding at white supremacists, insulting and/or threatening non-white people, and using Negroes who volunteer to be props in his sideshow to help them blend into the crowd of this ****) are...

    ...the very worst examples of what "freedom" means in this country.

    Some people (more than a few people, honestly) are just like those people in that photograph, especially the ones that claim to be impartial or fair...or don't have anything in common with knuckleheads or liars or murderers, because they shot a round of golf with them or had a drink or two with them...

    Cowards.

    If a person really cared about being somebody who wanted to be seen as someone impartial or intelligent...or even worthy of the time of day...

    ...they'd do a better job of watching what kinds of company they keep.

    Or, they'd damn sure stop complaining about someone not getting their "good side" in a photograph with bad people...
     
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    ...you don't necessarily have to be good at business in order to grift, B-Bob.
    You just have to be good at the business of grifting...;)
     
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    Great post, thanks for putting the time into that.

    There's a joke/not joke I've heard in Germany:

    What do you call a Nazi having dinner with four people?
    Five Nazis having dinner.



    I feel torn about this. I have lovely friends and family who are intelligent and loving but clearly weak to the seduction of demagoguery.
    We must call evil what it is. We can't hold back for fear of hurting the feelings of people who excuse/overlook/cheer evil.
    And yet-
    I must strive to find the humanity in my perceived 'political opponents' because if I don't, I lose hope.
     
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    ...yes.

    ...I don't know if you're Christian or not, @Nolen...

    ...(and I don't blame you if you're not...'cause neither am I)...

    ...but there's an anecdote in the Christian bible (Matthew, chapter 12, verses 46-50) about something like this...
    ...the whole "blood-being-thicker-than-water" argument, essentially...

    ...alot of these dishonest or stupid or vapid people who are or pretend to be followers of their master, would no doubt be horrified to learn that your mother and father have nothing to do with why you ultimately decide to do or say whatever it is you decide to do or to say.

    ...I'm reminded daily of how very fortunate I was (and this is one of the instances where I might be persuaded to invoke divine providence)...

    ...to have the mother that I did. She grew up in that world I mentioned. She was born right around the time that happened in that above picture.
    ...it could be argued that she had more of a right to be venomous and distrustful of any white people, than any of these people now who are looking for hundreds of thousands of fake votes to keep their idiotic totem seated in the Presidency...

    ...she could have damn sure charged me with the task if she wanted. There was a point in time where I would have volunteered for that job, too.

    She didn't do that. She decided, at every opportunity, to look for the good things and not worry about where the bad things were, or where the bad people were.

    I'm never surprised by what people find. I'm surprised by what people find often tells me about what it is they're looking for.

    Most of the time, to tell a lie, you have to consciously walk by or discount or ignore a lot of truth on the way to telling that lie.

    So people with all these "alternate" views know exactly what it is they're doing. Or at the very least, they know exactly what it is they're not doing.

    Same difference. Same result.

    I'd never say that you should discard any of your loved ones.

    I would say that there are plenty of people who love what you may love. And that might be more than what you need....
     
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