Trump Expected to Pull Out of Paris Climate Agreement

the appeal to experts fallacy is getting used quite a bit here

 

Yeah, experts BAD.
Me want common man do science, do economy, do my mom's heart surgery. Me name is Mao Zedong. Me hate eggheads. Me think Joe the Plumber should do every job.
Experts b act gay. I saw a expert he was MUSLIM. Expert said being stupid is worse that being smart. ROFL, elitist expert at being faggy.

 

Yes. Wise people understand their lane and keep to it. I'm not a scientist, so when I'm looking for insight on science I listen to the scientist.

Do you listen to your doctor? Do you think you know more about health and medicine than s/he?

Interestingly enough, I bet you listen to experts about this or that throughout your daily life (except for the things you are an expert at) but with this particular thing, you've decided that they are bad.

 

"Experts fallacy" is only a fallacy when it is an appeal to an individual's or small group's alleged expertise or credentials as bolstering the value of what they say. I.e. So and so has a PhD in X, so he must know what he's talking about. That is quite different from an appeal to consensus from all experts in the field.

Perhaps you could argue that people are exaggerating the scope of the scientific consensus in this case. But assuming the consensus, to whatever extent it actually covers, is likely true, especially when one is not himself/herself an expert in the area, is not at all a fallacy.

 

I hate when so-called experts tell me to do things or not do things. Usually ends up costing me money. Why can't they mind their own business and quit pretending they have my best interests in mind when they really just want to transfer my wealth and control my behavior.

Like... why should I eat healthier? Why shouldn't I drink and take drugs? Why should I exercise. Wealth transfer and behavior control!
And why should I worry if the water is without contamination? That the air isn't polluted. That products are safe? More wealth transfer and behavior control!

Damn these so-called experts. Scientists! What makes them so smart anyway?!

 

You know who teaches these "scientists" and deems them worthy to "graduate" and receive "diplomas" which recognize their knowledge of "science", don't you? Other "scientists"!

Ouroboros, we're through the looking glass.

 

Well our current world civilization is built on our current climate....

You apparently think that if we do nothing now that you'll save money and won't be controlled....?

It seems like you would be giving up even more money and control trying to adjust to climate change.... ever thought about what it will cost to adjust to higher sea levels and new agricultural areas?

 

The climate is always changing is my favorite excuse!

I mean the universe is always slinging asteroids at Earth, why lift a finger?

 

Yes, it's a fallacy. That's what it is alright.

Those who have studied the most, done the most research, spent the most time training, collected the most data, analyzed the most data, and researched the most should never have any say on the subject.

I agree with you, that it's mighty sketchy to let people who have done all that work on a subject be trusted with having any say.

 

That is the GOP mentality of today, do not trust science and experts but trust what the politicians tells you.

 

It's republican covfefe that counts. Who cares what the smart people that study this for a living think

 

"The so-called expert doctors say that I have cancer but it's just a scheme to steal my hard-earned money. Besides, my body is changing all the time and there's nothing that can be done about cancer. Plus, who's to say that my body is in optimal condition right now anyways?"

-Commodore probably

 

This is brilliant.

 

c2 = a2 + b2 my ass - Python Koreans are not experts in anything.

 

a good example here, we need not know anything about Pythagoras to know this is true

 

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

 

Does Congress have to vote on this if Trump withdraws? Or, does the president have the final say?

I don't see Congressional support for withdrawing. Republicans in office are already facing health care vote backlash and now they want to add this to their resumes? I don't think you have a majority of Republicans in office that would support withdrawing from this agreement.

 

Except that's not what's happening here entirely. It is not a logical fallacy to believe the data collected and presented after the experts have done their studies. Nobody is saying it must be true simply because an expert says it is. I believe they are saying the best-known data agrees that it is happening. It has been collected, tested and presented by experts that are more qualified to do this job than the folks trying to deny it.

 

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