So, let's recap here: Trump's favorability numbers are tanking...after two weeks. Conway is making up terrorist attacks to justify ridiculous policies. Spicer keeps tweeting his passwords. The First Lady doesn't even like her husband enough to live with him, and Donald is throwing Twitter tantrums about mean judges on an unsecured Android. Four years? They will be lucky to make it through the month.
A fence is a wall by other name. The purpose of either is to inhibit passage. Also, Trump isn't completely walling off the southern border. There are parts where that would be impossible and impractical given natural barriers. Having said that, I will definitely listen to what you think is the difference.
Actually I was talking about the lengths as Clinton built a "fence" that was about 1/3 of the length of Trump's and isn't as tall or thick. I already outlined earlier what the actual issues are, an expensive wall is just a bandaid to make fools happy.
Therestheddagger is a conservative. He believes in conservative principles such as balancing the budget. You should have just told him 'Its SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than Donald's' and as a true conservative non partisan hack that therestheddagger is that we all know, he would obviously be now rationally against Trump's plan and obviously changed his mind and prefers Clinton's would be plan which is significantly cheaper.
It's funny. Trump is going to get criticized if he breaks his promises, or follows through on his promises.
That's what happens when you make very naive and foolish promises. I can't wait till he gets the coal industry back in its prime. Is Trump going to start another industrial revolution... Using 19th century technology? Smart.
What libtard said this? “Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit,” he said. “And then while they’re working and earning here they pay taxes here.”
Walling the U.S. Off From Mexico Won’t Work A wall won’t stop illegal migration from Mexico. Here’s an idea that will http://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou.../why-walling-the-us-off-from-mexico-wont-work Rosa has spent the last decade caring for elderly Americans in Utah who are no longer able to safely take care of themselves. One of them is my feisty step-grandma, who lives in the stormy darkness of advanced Alzheimer's disease. Rosa came from Mexico to work in the United States, eventually becoming a certified nurse assistant. She now often pulls 16-hour double shifts and regularly contends with getting smacked or scratched by the dementia patients she lovingly tends to. Last week the president of the United States ordered my country to wall itself off from Mexico. He did not mention any new, lawful channel for Mexicans to do the essential work that Rosa and millions like her do now – some with authorization, some without it. That means that many American families in the future who need care like Rosa's will face the bitter reality of life without it. There are reasonable people who support the president's order, because there is a serious and very real problem with migration between the U.S. and Mexico. But the problem is the illegality, not the migration itself. The black market that has dominated U.S.-Mexico migration for decades has harmed both country's workers, drained public coffers and bred threats to national security. The president's order rests on the idea that solutions to this problem are more unilateral coercion, more expensive militarization and more affronts to our neighbors' dignity. This is a costly path that will not work. First, the order will oblige U.S. taxpayers to spend anywhere from $15–25 billion to $38 billion up front, and unspecified billions in later maintenance. Then come the more serious costs. The wall will likely leave the black market largely intact, and will funnel cash to organized criminals by raising smuggling revenues. The very proposal of a wall has already ruptured bilateral relations, and could poison U.S.-Mexico cooperation to stem illegal migration from Central America. A wall will likely reduce somewhat the flows of labor across the border. That would choke off the fuel of Mexican labor to the U.S. economic engine, making American firms less productive and cutting bothjobs and wages for U.S. workers. There is an entirely different and enormously better way to address the same problem. To see why, look closer at Rosa. She has been a godsend to my family. But the benefits of Rosa's work ripple across the entire Salt Lake Valley and across the nation. Without Rosa's labor, which American workers are not available to replace, there would be no jobs for the American staff alongside her in the memory-care facility: the administrators, the social workers, the physical plant operator and others who have technical and language skills that Rosa doesn't. Rosa lives and spends her earnings in Utah, stimulating the local economy. Rosa's work frees up my family to do work they are better suited for than care work. Rosa's work raises the value of Americans' shares in the national chain that runs the facility. Read this twice: Rosa creates jobs for Americans every morning. In other words, Rosa exemplifies the colossal opportunity for exchange between two neighboring countries. Both the U.S. and Mexico benefit much more when that exchange happens through well-regulated channels. Walls throw away those opportunities in favor of impoverishment and crime. There is a specific alternative to the wall. I worked to craft that alternative together with a bipartisan, binational group of top experts led by Ernesto Zedillo, the former president of Mexico, and Carlos Gutierrez, the U.S. secretary of commerce under George W. Bush. Our group represents Americans and Mexicans, Republicans and Democrats, labor and employers, diplomats and lawyers, economists and national security officials – speaking with one voice. This is the first specific model for regulating U.S.-Mexico labor mobility endorsed by a group this authoritative and diverse. We set out the details in a report calledShared Border, Shared Future: A Blueprint to Regulate U.S.-Mexico Labor Mobility. Our vision ends unlawful migration between two neighbors with a bilateral agreement to carefully regulate low-skill migration for work across the border. That vision rests on history, cooperation, and innovation – and it is specifically designed to protect workers in both countries. The last major immigration reform, in 1986, was billed as a once-and-for-all solution to the black market. But it dealt only with migrants already here, and created no serious channel for lawful, mutually-beneficial labor flows. So the black market quickly resurged, and just four years later it was bigger than before the reform. Mexican migration is not a temporary phenomenon. It has been vital to the U.S. economy since the 1920s, and it will continue for our lifetimes. In recent years an average of 174,000 Mexicanshave crossed the border from south to north, and about that many from north to south. Our vision rests on cooperation. There can be no solution to bilateral problems from the suspicious glares of two enemies through a rusting fence. The U.S. and Mexico have cooperated to regulate labor mobility before, in 1910, 1919-1921 and 1942-1965. Those agreements were successful in quelling the black market, and they can do so again. We propose several innovations to fix the problems with past agreements, including a fee system to protect U.S. worker priority for jobs, a visa cap that can respond to changing conditions and a system to quash unscrupulous recruiters. While the president formulates his plans, Rosa keeps showing up at six each morning, working with her American colleagues to care for her American patients, helping make this country great.
Trump said shortly after his election that he would instruct the Department of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator on day one. “The U.S. Treasury’s designation of China as a currency manipulator will force China to the negotiating table and open the door to a fair — and a far better — trading relationship,” he argued. President-elect Donald Trump said on inaugural day that he will not label China a currency manipulator on his first day in office http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/14/t...abel-china-a-currency-manipulator-on-day-one/ On Jan 24, the top Democrat, Chuck Schumer, urged President Trump to label China as a currency manipulator "Mr. President: if you really want to put America first, label China a currency manipulator," Schumer said. The last time the US had officially label China a currency manipulator was from 1992 to 1994. Two weeks after Schumer's urging, President Trump still has not ordered the Treasury Dept to label China as a currency manipulator; but he has reversed his previous position on China , at the request of China's President Xi, by re-affirming the 'one-China" policy. on this, Trump comes across as spineless!
Ruh roh... Exclusive: Trump administration has found only $20 million in existing funds for wall - document http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-funds-idUSKBN1685SY
Trump asks congress and the American people for the first $1 billion for his boondoggle wall... Trump to ask for border wall money — but only a little http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/border-wall-money-supplemental-congress-budget/index.html
I had to post this again, DD. It is so well said and is also true, so here it is again. Don't be surprised if it pops up elsewhere in this forum.
lol, liberal tears are salty!!! I voted for Trump because he was the best choice of who we had to vote for when it counted. I didn't vote for him in the primary but had no issues voting against Hillary when it really counted. I have not regretted it even a little yet.
Of course. Even if or when do you regret it, it'll be very difficult to admit. See my post in another thread- just because President Trump is throwing out a bunch of Executive Orders doesn't mean it's necessarily a good thing. There is government inaction, there is hyper-action, and then there is a happy medium, which tends to be the best course of action. He is so gung-ho about appearing to get things done that he doesn't think things through. The ill-timed immigration ban is only the most obvious example. Unfortunately, whatever positive things he does are often obscured by the numerous slips, mishaps, etc. Ask people from other countries- many have little to zero stake in how we are doing. They just can't understand how someone like Donald Trump could be elected to the highest office. Very few requirements is my response.
Liberal tears? Lame excuse. All of those points are the truth- they're not saying anything that isn't true. Many people voted for him for reasons other than those- good for them. But a LOT, I MEAN, A LOT voted for him for any, most, or all of those reasons. And they got got.
