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Trump and Democrats Agree to Pursue $2 Trillion Infrastructure Plan

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/30/us/politics/trump-infrastructure-plan.html

    WASHINGTON — Democratic congressional leaders emerged from a meeting at the White House on Tuesday and announced that President Trump had agreed to pursue a $2 trillion infrastructure plan to upgrade the nation’s highways, railroads, bridges and broadband.

    Senator Chuck Schumer, the minority leader, said that there had been “good will” in the meeting and that it was “different than some of the other meetings that we’ve had.” Standing alongside Speaker Nancy Pelosi, he said the group planned to meet again in three weeks, when Mr. Trump was expected to tell them how he planned to actually pay for the ambitious project.

    The first substantive sit-down between Mr. Trump and Democratic leadership since the 35-day government shutdown last winter unfolded at a tense moment.

    Since their last meeting at the White House, the special counsel released his 448-page report detailing Mr. Trump’s monthslong effort to thwart an investigation that loomed over his presidency. Ms. Pelosi, since then, has tried to caution her colleagues against impeaching the president, while facing growing pressure from her caucus and from 2020 Democratic presidential contenders to do so.
     
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    What a **** Show
     
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    Trump blows up White House meeting over nasty feud with Pelosi
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/trump-hits-back-at-pelosi-i-dont-do-cover-ups-1339637
     
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    Better luck next time, Trump:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...82dbf0-01a4-49ef-934b-612a2ca8e85d_story.html


    Let's review the White House's repeated attempts, and failures, to get "infrastructure week" off the ground:

    1) Week of May 15, 2017
    What: Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao promises $1 trillion infrastructure plan "in the next several weeks."
    What derailed it: Hours later, The Washington Post reported that Trump shared highly classified intelligence with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador.

    2) Week of June 5, 2017
    What: The first official White House "infrastructure week" (which notably kicked off without a plan).
    What derailed it: Former FBI director James B. Comey accused Trump of lying in congressional testimony. The next day, Trump accused Comey of lying.

    3) Week of Aug. 14, 2017
    What: Trump signed an executive order he said would streamline the infrastructure approval process.
    What derailed it: Trump spent much of a nearly 45-minute news conference meant to tout the order blaming "both sides" for violent protests in Charlottesville.

    4) Week of Oct. 9, 2017
    What: Chao again touted Trump's $1 trillion infrastructure plan without providing the details of said plan.
    What derailed it: The Post reported that Chao repeatedly used taxpayer-funded private jets to fly to events when cheaper commercial flights were available.

    5) Week of Feb. 12, 2018
    What: Trump announced a $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan, much of it funded by states and private investment.
    What derailed it: The resignation of a White House aide over domestic violence allegations, reports that Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen paid hush money during the 2016 campaign to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, the indictment of 13 Russians in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation and a massacre at a high school in Parkland, Fla.

    6) Week of March 26, 2018
    What: Trump gave a speech in Ohio touting his infrastructure plan.
    What derailed it: As The Post's Heather Long reported at the time: "This latest [infrastructure] week is happening while Congress is on recess, Trump faces high-profile allegations of marital infidelity, the Russia investigation continues to make headlines, and the administration grapples with staff turnover and contentious firings."

    7) Week of April 29, 2019
    What: Trump and congressional Democrats agreed to invest $2 trillion in infrastructure, even as Trump's acting chief of staff and congressional Republicans cast doubt on it.
    What derailed it: Hours after Trump's infrastructure meeting with Democrats, The Post reported that Mueller wrote a letter to Attorney General William P. Barr in March complaining that Barr's letter describing Mueller's principal conclusions "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance" of Mueller's investigation. Senate Democrats hammered Barr about it during a hearing the next day.​
     
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    I’m starting to hate politicians more than the Utah Jazz
     
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    in other words you have grown to HATE politicians
     
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    I’m bloated
     
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    This shows how ridiculous the trump wh and admin approach to working with congress... and to resort to a claim of sexism. Pathetic.


     
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    I know there are some who will paint this as a win for Pelosi, but here is the alternative view:

    Since day one of the new Congress, Pelosi and the radical although small, hard-left wing of her party have been at virtual war about how to handle impeachment. Firebrands like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez want to put on a full-court press, but Pelosi knows there are significant political risks involved with that — especially for purple-district Democrats if these new efforts come up as empty as the Mueller report did.

    Trump pointed out in his remarks in the Rose Garden that he allowed the White House Counsel to speak to Mueller for 20 hours, honored subpoenas, and gave Mueller pretty much everything he asked for. He is absolutely confident in his defense of his actions, because, after all, Mueller was always supposed to be the dispositive voice, and he gave Trump a clean bill of legal health.

    Make no mistake. This was not the infrastructure meeting at the White House Pelosi wanted. She is desperate for her moderate swing-district representatives to bring home some wins. Infrastructure was the best chance for that. Now, that door seems to be closed.

    Instead, her members in swing districts will have to defend two years of tilting at windmills in a vain effort to impeach a duly elected president. No business of the nation done, just further and further rabbit holes trying to pretend that Trump was not rightfully elected president.

    This is not what Pelosi wanted. This is what Pelosi was forced into. And its not going to get much better for her. Today the president put her and Schumer on blast that as long as they focus on investigating him, nothing will get done. Meanwhile, Trump’s economy continues to click on all cylinders and it isn’t very clear what kind of correction from Democrats it might need.​

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/2...mps-infrastructure-talks-rose-garden-remarks/
     
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    A cry baby. He's not even being impeached. I don't recall Clinton having a problem doing his job and doing it well during his impeachment.
     
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    My first infrastructure plan would be to put a manhole cover on Pelosi’s mouth, but I’m afraid it would crush her hollow head
     
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    Impeachment causes a schism over Congress's perceived results.

    imo, that doubt would make voters rationalize our overjuiced economy as a "stabilizing influence" over whatever gut wrenching Trump is pulling over the American people (overall behavior, Mueller report fallout, China Trade Wars, overall lack of foreign policy focus, etc*...).



    *Etc is just the catch all for things partisans might feel is offensive but others might not.
     
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    There are no winners here, and it's the American people who lose. Trump didn't have to do this, and he shouldn't have. Trump isn't the first President to be subject to congressional investigations, and he certainly won't be the last. I don't ever remember a president acting this childish.
     
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    Sure, just like Trump won that shutdown meeting they had.

    He will take that mantle!
     
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    I know there are some who will paint this as a win for Pelosi, but here is the alternative view: @Os Trigonum

    I take offense to this statement
     
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    She can take her thoughts and prayers and stick them up her ass
     

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