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Top 10PGs in the L?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Nikos, May 17, 2002.

  1. Nikos

    Nikos Member

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    what are your top 10PG's in the NBA in order?
     
  2. pippendagimp

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    GP
    Kidd
    Francis
    Davis
    A Miller
    Cassell (when healthy)
    Bibby
    Nash
    Marbury
    T Brandon (when healthy)

    I hope I didn't miss nobody....
     
  3. Patience

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    Kidd
    Payton
    Francis
    Davis
    Nash
    Miller
    Bibby
    Stockton
    Marbury
    Cassell
     
  4. RocketFan007

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    1. Kidd
    2. Payton
    3. Miller
    4. Davis
    5. Francis
    6. Nash
    7. Marbury
    8. Bibby
    9. Cassell
    10. Stockton
     
  5. huby_n1

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    1. Kidd
    2. Payton
    3. Francis
    4. Davis
    5. Nash
    6. Miller
    7. Marbury
    8. Cassell
    9. Stockton
    10. Snow
     
  6. TheReasonSF3

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    1. Stevie Franchise
    2. Payton
    3. Nash
    4. Davis
    5. Kidd (overrated he has a good team around him)
    6. Marbury
    7. Miller
    8. Cassell
    9. Bibby
    10. Brandon
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    1. Kidd
    2. Payton
    3. Davis
    4. Francis
    5. Nash
    6. Miller
    7. Stockton
    8. Marbury
    9. Cassell
    10. Bibby.

    DaDakota
     
  8. hoopgod13

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    1. Payton
    2. Kidd
    3. Baron
    4. Andre Milla
    5. Stockton
    6. Bibby
    7. Franchise
    8. Nash
    9. Cassell
    10. Marbury
     
  9. CriscoKidd

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    GP
    Kidd
    Nash
    Baron
    Francis
    Marbury
    Miller
    Cassell
    Bibby
    Brandon
     
  10. lpbman

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    1 Kidd
    2 Francis
    3 Davis
    4 Marbury
    5 Nash
    6 Miller
    7 Payton
    8 Bibby
    9 Snow
    10 Parker
     
  11. Relativist

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    (this should really go in the Dish forum)

    Sorry, please continue.
     
  12. lpbman

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    offseason anarchy

    the horror
     
  13. LongTimeFan

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    All of you who don't have Stockton in your list are morons.. lol...

    best PG, not overall player.. he should top all list.. I'm not sure if the rest of you guys put them in order of what you think, bur stockton at 10? 8? you must be crazy... he's a better PG then Francis..
     
  14. pippendagimp

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    Well glory b, da funk's on me beeyatch!!

    I gots my very first ignore candidate....you at da top my list b!!!

    I finally got a list right!!!
     
  15. LongTimeFan

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    I don't like the Jazz, but don't be ignorant to the fact that he is one of the best point guards of all-time..
     
  16. BigM

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    i don't understand how anyone would not have payton top 3 atleast. kidd is way overrated but he's also darn good.

    1. payton
    2. kidd
    3. francis
    4. nash
    5. davis
    6. brandon
    7. miller
    8. marbury
    9. stockton
    10. cassell
     
  17. pasox2

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    Criteria : fg%, a-to %, total a, a/game. also steals - total, per g, s v to. Pg skills. Not athlete/character/leadership rating.


    1A. Miller
    2Payton
    3Kidd
    4Stockton
    5Davis
    6Brandon
    7Marbury (Dammit - I hate him)
    8Tinsley (very good stat year)
    9Nash
    10Cassell
    11 Bibby
    12 Francis ?
    13 M Jackson
    14 J Williams
    15 Mc Innis
    16 NVE
    17 D. Armstrong
    18 A. Williams
    19 Stodemire (ugh)
    20 Strickland (double ugh)

    Now you guys adjust for leadership and presence and all that.

    I Still like the top 5, but you could adjust francis and bibby up a lot and starbury, tinsley down a lot. Brandon Cassell injury bug, leadership ?s. Stockton, M Jackson age adjust ? going forward.
    Mc Innis, D. Armstrong, A. Williams show better than I expected.
    Super ugh adjust bottom two.
     
  18. Houkom

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    Very good stat ranking,

    may I suggest that you adapt the ranking with the team win/loss ratio and with stats of the other teammates:

    For example productive share of the PG out of total team production.

    So that : for example :), Francis would benefit greatly from production share but would loose a lot from the win ratio.

    The ranking should really be modified interestingly. You would at least see the most efficient players.

    The last argument standing would be the quality of the PG teammates, indeed the production share can be interpreted both ways:

    - if very high: I'm so good, my teammates suck and i have to do everything on my own (or I'm a selfish brat)

    - If very low, my teammates have a greater influence on the game statwise and I only distribute and call the game in a very smart way.

    Inverse the ratio depending on the assumption you make here.

    multiply all ratios and you have a good final stat ranking
     
  19. Jerry36

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    1. Kidd
    2. Payton
    3. Davis
    4. Bibby
    5. Nash
    6. Miller
    7. Francis
    8. Stockton
    9. Marbury
    10. Cassell
     
  20. giddyup

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    01. Kidd
    02. Payton
    03. Nash
    04. Miller
    05. Bibby
    06. Stockton
    07. Cassell
    08. Parker
    09. Francis
    10. Davis
    11. Marbury
    12. Brandon

    Watching a guy like Nash play makes me want the Rockets to go after someone like Dickau-- if he is the third coming of Stockton/Nash.
     

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