I hear you. I'm just saying that this could really be a huge negative if Sanders or Warren are the nominees. I can see attacks ad going 24/7 how the socialists in the Democratic party are going to take your insurance. Soccer moms might hate Trump, but they might hate their current health insurance more. I think much more education is needed to convince folks that there is a better alternative.
This. Robert that lives in the suburbs of Madison Wisconsin with his half Arab wife and is in IT has no interest in having Bernie or Warren raise his taxes or Beto starting a civil war. “Bob” doesn’t want to vote for Trump but don’t tempt him. He will get in his 2017 Kia Soul and quietly pull that lever for Trump if he has to hear **** about giving 300 million people socialized medicine, the government sending everyone a check every month, 16 year olds voting or tax payers paying for everyone’s student loans.
I know that people that voted for trump in 2016 arent targeted in these debates but is it useful to call these people racist and to be so hateful towards them? These folks are watching and if they aren't happy with trump at this point, this sure isnt inspiring a crossover.
Do you really feel like that is Biden though? I know he's got a 10 point polling lead on all the dem candidates right now, but man when I watch Biden, I can't help but get the feeling that he would get thrashed by Trump. I can't help but feel his polling ratings are almost purely based off of name recognition, and not genuine enticement towards Biden as a candidate. It seems most of the time Biden talks, he's ranging from slightly to heavily incoherent at multiple points within his 1-minute responses during the debates... and I can't say that for any other candidate. I'm genuinely scared how bad it would look in a two-person debate where Biden has to speak for 5+ minutes at a time. His gafs and overall presentation seem awful, and his politics seem uninspiring. I feel like Warren, despite her Pocahontas story, would do a much better job, because A, it seems like she hs an actual agenda to improve the quality of lives for American citizens... but even if you ignore that, I feel like she would still do much better purely based off of her not slurring, stuttering, misspeaking every 10 seconds. Biden to me, genuinely doesn't seem fit to be running, which is terrifying as he's the leading dem candidates. What Biden has is name recognition, and that's what you'd be banking on for him in the primary, because if wer'e going purely off of performance on stage, I'd take Sanders, Warren, Pete, Beto, Harris over Biden in the general.
From Rolling Stone today... _______ Why It’s Time for Joe to Go https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...drop-out-joe-biden-democratic-primary-884047/
I don't know but relentlessly attacking him isn't going to help his chances if he gets the nomination.
I would agree that there are millions of gun owners in the country but I wouldn't think that there are millions of AR owners. Maybe, but I genuinely don't know. I tried looking for the percentage of gun owners who own AR or other assault style weapons but the gun lobby has shut down most of this type of research so numbers are hard to come by. I agree that millions of gun owners would scream bloody murder (on principle) regardless of whether they were directly affected by an assault gun buy back. Edit: I found some numbers that show between 2-4 million AR style weapons in US, so...
I think many are trying to keep him from getting the nomination in the first place, which IMO is the best thing the Dems could do to avoid losing to Trump. Sanders and Warren aren't polling too far behind, they are the candidates next in line if he falls off, and I think they would do a MUCH better job at performing in the general over Biden. I think the vast majority of people who are voting Biden, are gonna vote Dem regardless IMO. Sanders/Warren would make a huge difference pulling in people outside of that group.
Jamil Smith’s time as an executive producer for the Rachel Maddow show makes his claims more bonafide.
Ehh there are a lot of people that won’t vote for candidates pushing socialized medicine for 300 million people, admitted tax increases and the tax payers footing the student loan costs. There are a lot of voters that do not like Trump’s comments or him personally but will not vote for someone like Sanders and possibly Warren as well.
The conservatives are hitting him hard because they believe he is a serious threat to Trump. The far left because they think he isn't progressive enough, but primarily old white man bad status quo. I totally understand if someone doesn't want Biden as the nominee just voice your reasons with some respect. Why give Trump additional ammo if he does win?
Bernie and Warren's platforms are overwhelmingly popular with the American people, and dem voters. I believe socialized medicine for 300 million people is polling at 70%. Increased taxes don't mean much if the middle & poor class save money, abolishing student loans is also popular with the American people, and overwhelmingly popular with dem voters.
Those are serious issues that could decide the 2020 election. Would a public option, something that Obama really wanted, be terribly bad in comparison to Medicare-for-all? Let the marketplace decide the winner. I think Sanders and Warren need to walk back on the issue of healthcare, and allow for more options.
Agreed he's outpolling all other dems by an average of 9-10% right now Agreed. Don't understand this point, if Bernie is the "far lefts" #1 choice, they can't be concerned about that. I'll use myself as an example, I like social democracy, I love Bernie, I'd likely be labeled as far left from most in America. With that being said, I as well as many others that would be labeled "far-left" are VERY different from the "woke" people who are also labeled far left, who are just out on identity politic crusades, and are generally politically inept. Many of these people would never support Sanders, as he is an old white man. I mean, this is an individual person thing that occurs all across the political spectrum. I agree with being respectful, but I also think Biden is coasting on name recognition, would be terrible in the general, and would be an extremely mediocre president that wouldn't make the necessary moves to improves Americans quality of life - which is desperately needed , so I support aggressively trying to curtail him from winning the dem primary, at the same time with personally agreeing it's best always be respectful and fair.
Republicans will call any Democratic nominee a socialist. Obama was as moderate as it gets and they called him a crazy socialist trying to destroy America from within. Their party is based on lies and scaremongering and Trump is the embodiment of that. Ask people who have socialist programs like Medicare and Social Security whether they like their socialism. Then ask the people who died without healthcare or went bankrupt due to medical bills how much they like their capitalism. Bottom line, people want something cost effective that works no matter what the hell you want to call it and that is not the system we have currently. Republicans insist on this broken system that doesn't work anywhere on Earth.
He is polling the best as far general election chances go out of all the democrats. Are you saying that he will stink it up in debates and will lose? You think Bernie screeching or Warren whining styles would do better? Trump is great at swaying the room with his charm, not his policy know-how. Personally, I think Biden can stand his own in terms of Charm better than the other two leading candidates.
I'm not denying his poll numbers at all, I just think his poll numbers are mostly based on name recognition. Yes, I'm saying I think he'd suck in the debates and would have a greater chance of loosing over screeching Bernie and whiny Warren. I don't think Trump won with charm, I think he won by roasting corrupt politicians, which Bernie and Warren are not. Example, what's gonna happen in the midwest when Trump hammers Biden on TPP?
