From my observation of Facebook, Hannity, MSNBC, CNN, Twitter Presidential supporters and his press conferences... Conservatives get angry about... 1. Kneeling at sporting events 2. Having to wear masks. 3. People who they perceive as being hypocritical about wearing masks (like Pelosi) 4. Socialism 5. Biden's mental capacity 6. People being able to vote by mail (who aren't the military, or the President) 7.People claiming the President disrespected our troops. 8. What they perceive as people calling them racists. Progressives get angry about... 1. People not wearing masks and possibly endangering the health of American citizens 2. Foreign nations taking advantage of us and sabotaging or attempting to sabotage our Democracy 3. The President's lack of leadership in handling the deadly pandemic which has killed nearly 200,000 Americans. 4. The President not holding foreign adversaries accountable for their attempts to damage our Democracy 5. People not being allowed to have more ways of voting. 6. The president's lying. 7. The President disrespecting our troops as well as their families and cutting services from them to pay for his wall as well as giving them lesser increases in pay, etc. 8. The president's racist words and actions Obviously, I'm giving into my bias in the way I presented the list. There may be more items that I've leaving off. But I think the there is a drastic difference in how significant the actions are that get each side upset. Trump supporters seem to get upset at things that aren't as consequential. (having to wear masks, Pelosi not wearing a mask, etc.) They are upset by people protesting for equal treatment. They are upset by Antifa (death toll - 1) Progressives get upset about things that actually matter(attacks by foreign adversaries, Healthcare for American citizens and protecting the safety during a pandemic.) They are upset by white supremacists (death toll - in the thousands) I'm curious to hear what folks think has been left off of the list.
Censorship and double standards. If Kamala comes for our guns, add 2A. Right now I think we could use sensible gun regulations and it’s a ridiculous argument to oppose any solutions to curb gun violence. This coming from someone who just bought an AR-15 after seeing that our police force may not be there for me.
This is lazy "both sides" rhetoric. I think we can examine what properties the left and right have by which leaders they worship and revere. From that examination I think it's self evident that the left is far more policy driven while the right is far more "culture wars driven". Just exanine Bernie vs Trump to see this. Now you can ideologically disagree with Bernie's policies and you can believe they are not pragamtic but he's far more policy driven than Trump by a significant margin.
While it is certainly lazy, it is rare when both sides agree. It is rare when either side doesn't harp on whatever the other says or does.
It's hilarious you posted this. Many, many years ago I took the required class to get a conceal carry license. The man teaching the class was someone I had already used several times for gun training, he was heavily involved in the gun culture and ran a gun training/skills business. He was a great instructor and an excellent shooter, he was probably in his late 50's. In the classroom part of the conceal carry class, he was going on and on about how concealed weapons are the surest way to prevent crime. He is supposed to be teaching us the laws about CC mind you but he had his own segment of the class where he went off script and even posted a power point about Chicago and gun crime. At the time I didn't know anything about the statistics and studies regarding concealed carry and crime. I asked him if he had ever in his entire life felt threatened to a degree that he considered pulling his handgun. He said no of course. There are certainly regular every day people who encounter an event that causes them to make the decision about whether to pull out their weapon or not but in reality these events are few and far between. In the hundreds of people I've met training I've never met anyone, except active duty police, who ever had cause to pull out their guns. It's just fear for the most part, nothing based in reality. You go ahead and load up your AR15, just make sure you don't kill a loved one on accident because that is way more likely than you killing an Antifa terrorist trying to steal your TV.
The more realistic non-pipe dream scenerio is "more guns" means more trivial fights ending with shootings.
repugs feel nothing. everything has to be processed through the filter of hannity/rush and owning the libs.. they cannot look at a topic from science or their own opinion. you often have to wait for them to hear what rush or hannity say so they can know how to feel. so everything becomes political and a positional deal around the game of winning against a party. dems like up? well then its all about down! not what is good.. more wise or makes sense but what is it relative to a dem position. if a repug needs intersects with good they will certainly use that to get their end but they dont care about that. the main move is opposition and no solution. dems are more after a result driven values driven decision. so you have one side doing something and another side that living is made opposing and not doing anything. now repugs in charge and we see its this rudderless drift waiting for dems so can blame them and try to own them the whole time. repugs still talking about clinton yet bring up trump and its whataboutism. we will hear that one plenty if biden wins. in fact biden in charge and them complaining doing nothing of value or action is their natural position. you see first hand a guy like lindsey graham a great disruptor but good luck him not having tjst deer in headlight look he has now. just this week he will have to hide out on his opinion on supreme court and trump taxes..the funniest part of all is that there was any notion of integrity or morals
You can call it bias if you wish, FB. I call it telling the truth. Heck, you could have made longer lists for both sides.
Unless you go looking for trouble, you’ll never have to use your gun. As others have posted, you’re more likely to kill someone by accident than having to use it in self defense. Oh and doesn’t matter what brand of Democrat is elected, they’ll never “go after your guns” this is a myth.
We both hate each other's hypocrisies. Cons hate. "Limousine Liberals" and their fake concern over "all everyday people" when libs make every effort to put down flyover states or the dirty South, whether by dress, accent, or even food. They buy into Coastal Elites wanting to tell everyone what to do with gas, fat, and soda taxes...all while "people leaving those towns in droves to escape socialism and regulation." Ofc, who wouldn't mind living there if they could afford housing costs and COL expenses. They also hate how left leaning reporters make them feel like "they're acting against their own interests" with smug determination. Cons are mostly happy with their limitations, in fact those who break them deserve the billions they earned, stolen, and cheated... If only to serve as an example on how to tame the Wild Frontier! Cons hate Libs claiming racism at every opportunity when Lib defense of looting and violent protesting tears down all that's American, aka property rights. They also think Libs are hypocritical by elevating disadvantaged classes because "granting handicaps" are implicit assumptions of that class being lower status or being held to a lower standard. Cons hate that Libs trust colleges more than churches when science isn't even a 100% definitive. It's more of the message that self determination and agency might be a lie because of the racist or discriminatory actions groups (WASP) have taken in the past. They feel all of the social wedge issues they've lost over the decades is because science and academics "proved things" they still think are unprovable. Libs hate: The moralistic right's hypocrisy and the power people like Falwel Jr still exhibit even while they're trying to figure out a public friendly message that got wounded by newer generations acceptance of different practices of sexuality. For good measure, Cons don't seem to have a public problem religious leaders flying in private jets or owning million dollar car parks, so libs like reminding them at every moment to test their uhhh faith. They hate the "both sides" do it slogan and consider it weasely when oft repeated dog whistles are thrown around to ring in more racist members of their group. The gradual shutdown of government responsibility Cons practice while handing those powers to corporate interests that aren't driven by professional managers who are more likely to invest in long term interests like R&D and loyalty derived from years of customer satifcation, but rather shareholders primarily interested in short term gains through buybacks, splits and numbers that affect the current stock price. They also think unfettered capitalism is the root cause of inequality and the indebtedness the flyover states and dirty South had become, not government mismanagement. Libs dismiss Con distrust against science and government authorities as just another example of know-nothingism, where a common sensical chimp reads a tabloid (heaven forbid a 20min YouTube), puts on a labcoat and feels ready to throw down against an Ivory Tower professor... the meteorologist/economist vs climatologist trope. I think part of this is how either side gathers info. Libs generally trust instant mediums like the MSM and daily show infotainment. Cons with their am radio, Facebook and Fox Newe. A big difference is how they process this with their communities and networks. Cons likely judge the slow boil to fascism as false and panic ridden when their fellow white folk neighbor brushes it off with a new low rate big purchase and fears the muddied masses might loot it. This is how Iowa went red despite the state doing well under Obama while neighboring states fell behind. Iowans had this "exception proves the rule" mindset where despite economic success "it wasn't their America anymore" under Obama. Libs are more likely to trust numbers and facts on the surface though many are self aware that they might not be experts to them. So their web of trust are people/sources who have proven to break the numbers down into digestible bits. Nate Silver became an overnight millionaire from this. I think both sides read newspapers just as much (some polls had cons reading more from both biases) but with Trump, all bets are off because this behavior isn't a net positive for his side. It also needs to be said that all webs of trust are being attacked by private interests. Government authorities like the FDA, USDA and SEC are all privately funded and helmed by industry veterans. Tobacco might've lost in court decades ago, but they're still alive and the counter academic industry they helped develop makes it a tug of war on what is safe to eat or do. It yoyos as bad as our weight during fad diets. News ofc, is still owned by a handful few families who use shell corporations to retain majority decision making powers. So we all got problems. We're convinced the other is the cause of them though I don't think there's any proof of that. Our webs of trust claim the othher side is in the way of answers, so we believe it. Maybe the real answers happen not to be easy or instantly rewarding, so leaders from other side are risk adverse at doing them? Bit of a problem to commit to a 10 yr effort when your term lasts 2-4 years and you campaign either nonstop (trash career politician) or half the time (semi-competent) This "hypocrisy!!!" scorekeeping doesn't really need to have a winner. It's goal is to invalidate legit points from both sides so that leadership from either side needs to act with any conviction. Maybe that's why one side has trended towards authoritarianism just to settle one or two things before the mic is pulled from them. Who knows?
You are free to quote what you dislike about it, add to it for either side, or anything else that you would like.
I hate the hypocrisy, lack of principles, ignorance/stupidity, inability to think critically, and constant belief in conspiracy and fake news from the right...many of the right wing posters on here are like this I also hate that the Republican party is such a safe haven for Confederate lovers (traitors to America), Nazis, racists, bigots, and idiotic conspiracy theorists something as stupid as QAnon is dead on arrival with the left...not with the right tho...it thrives... someone like Alex Jones has no chance of gaining any clout with the left...somebody spouting nonsense that ridiculous would get dismissed and tossed into the dumpster out back...on the right, he’s like a revered figure by many... I haven’t even mentioned their cult like worship of a freaking politician in Donald Trump...idiots worshipping and fawning over someone who’s only using them for their personal gain...grown men acting like he’s their father or deity... right wing domestic terrorism is killing dozens...none of these right wing clowns say a word...Antifa kills 1 person...now they are the biggest threat to America and it’s time to arm yourselves...that is just the latest example of their hypocrisy and lack of morals
I totally agree in that I should never have to use a gun. I'm not so sure if Harris becomes POTUS she doesn't issue an EO going after the assault style guns. It would be ugly, that's for sure. I'm not saying I would make it ugly personally. I've got too much to lose than to stand up for that and I'm sure others would fight that battle. Heck, I might even make a $$$ through a buy-back program and come out ahead while keeping the hunting/practical guns.
Right, the debate over “assault” weapons will always be a contentious issue. I don’t think hunting weapons and revolvers for self defense will ever be threatened at the national level; at least not in our lifetime
