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The W(why)TF did Trump do this? thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    You'd think addressing the opioid crisis would be some lowhanging fruit. Everyone agrees we need to help these people beat their addictions and be healthy productive members of society. Trump manages to make the headline be about executing drug dealers.
     
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    He wants to swear on the Art of the Deal.

    Something about it being better than the Gospels not only in sales but also content-wise and how his family swears on it not only saved them morally and also a few bucks believe me it's the new standard in paper print or on those electronic pad things that are bigger than a nokia phone which is amazing nowadays because porno on a phone is not good on old eyes which is still sharp like a hawk something bigger and better is the trump gold standard which is the Art of the Deal illiberal New York Times best seller the Art of the Deal on sale right now worldwide you got it, crooked Mueller?
     
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    This is an issue that is really important to me, and the way he’s addressing it is pissing me off.
     
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    Wonder if Rush's doctors would get executed or Rush himself?
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    The perpetrators are their contributors. Did you really expect anything else, like punishment for the doctors and manufacturers and the white trafficers and their associated pill farms?
     
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    ...that's not the war on drugs I grew up with....
     
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    Me neither. Our targets and goals have always been totally out of wack. But it shoulda/coulda been different...

    As a white guy who was of age from '90 to Now, I apologize for all the coke I did. Not so much the weed (a ton of that hydro was grown north of the border), but yeah, the weed, but the X/Molly too. And the acid I guess. But not the shrooms. We grew those.

    We didn't know what "opioids" were.
     
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    All good, brother.

    You ain't never called me no super-predator.
     
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    No, I think a regular president would focus the messaging on public health and rehabilitation. If Trump executes a bunch of drug dealers without treating the addiction, where are these voters going to get their heroin? If the failure of Reagan's war on drugs didn't teach him, I would have thought that at least since this is a more rural and white drug problem than before, Trump would have figured out that doubling down on interdiction isn't going to make him a hero. But nope, he wants to use this story too to say this is some Other afflicting us, it's not reckless prescriptions from doctors but some MS-13 drug dealer, and we have to be afraid and we have to fight dirty.
     
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    Hm.

    ...you know, something about chickens coming home to roost comes to mind...
    ...or dogs let out of the yard...
    ...or horses let out of the barn...

    Who knew I had this many farm animal references in me?

    I only read "Animal Farm" like, two or three times, maybe...
     
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    Sorry homre de sin paragraphos.

    What we're dealing with now is vastly different than the Reagan Years. How do you get the people unhooked from Oxy?

    I was just talking about the death of people.
     
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    And the only reason there is a heroin epidemic currently is because of the prescribing habits of doctors from the mid 90’s up until a few years ago. Tons of people got hooked on prescriptions, and when those got cut off, addicts moved to heroin. It’s a far cheaper habit when compared to pills, and in reality, it’s the same **** - for an addict that just wants to get well, an opiate is an opiate (though obviously the unknown strength/make up of street drugs makes them more dangerous for users).
     
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    WTF is a super-predator?

    Easy access to pills is the worst thing that's ever happened to poor rural people (oh, and meth, **** that stuff). Heroin and coke being the worst for poor urban folks, I guess.
     
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    I forgive you.
     
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    That's what poor urban kids who had drug problems were called in the '90s.

    Super-predators.

    Even money on how long it takes some giddy whatabout-ist conservative to chime in on who most famously said that line.

    A hint: the name rhymes with...uh...oh, hell...Clinton.

    Crack cocaine = meth. And all their derivatives are just as damaging and just as destructive. That's equivocation I can get behind.

    But I get a little confused as to one national response being "...lock them up..." (nothing new)...and another national response being "...help them out..."

    I guess it makes a difference on the sympathy meter if your hometown middle American doctor prescribes you some extra oxycotin because you're down on your luck and you get hooked on that stuff...not the same thing as government agents funneling in cocaine and selling it in urban neighborhoods.

    One is making a choice, and the other doesn't have a choice.
    One knows what s/he is doing is wrong and doesn't care, and the other is forced into a bad circumstance by forces beyond his/her control.

    One's guilty. And the other is innocent.

    Not picking on you, Buck.
    Just taking notes...
     
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