The Presidents of Harvard, MIT, Penn, Columbia, Cornell, Penn should be forced to resign

Kick them all out.

Let them express their opinions in their own country for all I care.

 

Who cares if people protest its their right, it's not like they are attacking police and whatnot like the maga jan 6ers.

Proisrael folks get triggered by these protest meanwhile cheering for idf basically a group given a free pass to commit mass murder on innocent palestines.

Folks do not like Israel commiting war crimes, what a surprise. U can only go for so long killing innocent folks b4 it riles people up.

 

Most are us citizens and that's a Babylon Bee headline dipshit.

 

As if none of the protestors chanted Death to America.

Do you support them?

Do you want those chanters identifying as "your people?"

 

They have the right to protests peacefully. Occupying private property, defacing property, threatening and harassing other people they do not.

I’ve brought this up frequently too that many tactics of protesters seem more about attention grabbing and alienate more people than they get support.

 

This is actually bad governing and seems like a flimsy justification to violate free speech rights.

You can vehemently disagree with someone's speech, but cheering on the state stopping it is as un American as it gets.

 

Jews love Texas
Texas loves Jews

 

Ah yes the faux patriotism. Folks hardly batted an eye when jan 6 magas attempted to overturn the peaceful transition of power which is basically the core of our nation. But protestors shouting sht is what triggers u.

 

We have one side here who spams every swinging account of some Palestinian protestor many of which are our of contex lt through tweet spams. And I hope you understand how social media algorithms work. They confirm biases. They spam you with rage bait that confirms your hate.


Unfortunately for most of the people empathetic to Palestinians, we aren't addicted to sicla median algorithm feeds to massage our preconceived hate biases.

You don't think a social media algorithm can Taylor someone's feed to spam them of ever yoro Israeli person saying unhinged ****?

Like who doy you want me to specifically condemn?

19 year old Felicia?


When people have to resort to random accounts spammed on social media feeds of activists to defend an ethnic cleansing you've lost the plot.

 

No, social media algorithms are attention grabbing.


And I've seen to many bad faith framing of students with weaponizing the term "anti-semite" to start believing rh claims.

 

A good example of the bubbled narrative you are under and the right wing pro IDF tactic of labeling something as "violent rhetoric adjacent" like "river to the sea Palestinians shall be free" but not applying that to pro Israeli defenders is the example of the business professor(of course the fascist comes from the business school) in Columbia who is a famous pro-idf defender asking for the national guard to take care of the protestors. Now if we play the "violent adjacent" game then any one can say he is advocating for the murder of Palestinian protestors because there is precedent of murdering college students via the national guard.


But that doesn't cross your bubbled feed does it? Is that professor expelled? Nope. And no a clip of his id not working in a building isn't him being expelled. Security divided protestors and counter protestors. He wasn't allowed on that side of the campus. He's still an active facility member and by the logic of pro-idf defenses he's advocating for violence of protestors.

 

Gregg Abbott has to be the most obnoxious troll in all of government. There is no issue that he doesn’t see as an opportunity to insert himself into in order to further drive a wedge in between Americans.

Abbott really is America’s a$$hole governor.

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Look… there is not one single day in America where if you go to DC or a college campus like Berkeley or Columbia where there are no protests… many of which are pretty damn un-American. What has changed here is a little increase in scope on one major issue in Palestine.

It’s nothing in scope though to the Vietnam protests or really even the occupy Wall Street protests. It’s a real protest movement but it is not yet at the “CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD!!” level.

The right thing to do is for college police to present clear guidelines to the protest leaders on defacing property etc. Then when they do not comply issue citations in a calm manner, and before school hours use railing to section off areas to protest and areas that are for students to walk to class etc. If protestors are blocking kids from getting to class, assault anybody, deface property, etc. then campus police should arrest those protestors in an orderly fashion. Coming in hot with the national guard like a fascist militia of brown shirts is just going to ignite the flames.

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From Bidens perspective I just think he needs to publicly pick a fight with Netanyahu while also continuing to remind folks of the October Hamas attacks and how Israel has a right to protest itself. But make Netanyahu out to be the guy who is making matters worse for Israel. Don’t be so diplomatic. Him and Gregg Abbott are the same… taking an issue and fanning the flames to try and gain more political power. Call them both out. I think that’ll go a long way with young voters who can actually vote in November and aren’t your bias persona who traffics in Middle East anti semitic propaganda.

I don’t think there’s enough of those folks to make a difference and the moment (heaven forbid) there is a hamas inspired terrorist attack on foreign soil, all of those American pro Palestine young people will quickly wise up about jumping on the whole Hamas isn’t so bad bandwagon if there even is one.

 

Why do we act as if the dehumanization of Palestinians in Israel is solved like the droid army in star wars where you just destroy the central hub(Bibi)?

Biden is part of the problem buying into the right wing framing of labeling college students as terror supporters.

 

I haven’t seen where Biden labeled college students as terrorist supporters. Where are you seeing that??

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...ests-palestinians-israel-gaza-hamas-columbia/

I'm sorry. He said "anti-semetic protests".

I would be fine if he just said "elements within the protests that are anti-semetic".

He lost any respect from me by labeling the entirety of the protestors as anti-semetic.

The irony is how many Jewish students he in one sweep labeled anti-semetic.

 

I agree and if you haven’t noticed have been very critical about “social media outrage”.

Yes there is and frankly even making anti-Semitic statements is free speech as much as making anti-Islamic statements.

It’s a fact though that many of these protest have moved to occupying private power. It is a fact that many of defaced property. It is also a fact that some protests have veered to harrassing and intimidating individuals. If we read the very beginning of this thread and the statements made by the Univeristy presidents they say the exact same thing. That they are trying to respect free speech but are drawing the line at the above actions.

It’s only that this issue is has become so polarized that those on one side consider any speech critical of Israel as hate speech and antisemitism while on the other side any crackdown on protest as suppression of free speech.

 

Which side here has more influence and power to shape narratives?

What is the status quo of the policy making apparatus of our society in America?

Are they more sympathetic to the desires of Israel or Palestinians?

Biden labeled the entity of Palestinians protests as anti-semetic. And he's supposed to be on the political party that is supposed so show some semblance of empathy for Palestinians at least rhetorically.