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The play in tournament has solved some things and created other issues

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by what, Nov 4, 2023.

  1. what

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    While the play in tournament has de-incentivized tanking, it has had the reverse effect on playing hard. Teams no longer have the fear (if they ever did) of not making the playoffs.

    So Adam Silver wants to combat that with an in-season tournament to make players care about games, but most people realize that the regular season doesn’t matter.

    In fact, most games themselves come down to the last 5 minutes of the game, which is probably by design — as officials are directed to try to keep the game close, but the point is that even most of the game is a sham to get to the last 5 minutes of the game.

    Basketball, in other words, has a real problem in that — the games are boring for the most part. And an in-season tournament isn’t going to change that.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    They are just fighting for extra 50.000 or 100k or 500k for each player.
     
  3. J.R.

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    They need to cancel this stupid ass tournament, burn the floors, and fire everyone involved with the creation of it.

    You have Bobby Marks and who was the player, Haliburton?, say the winner should get an automatic playoff berth.

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    Yeah the automatic play-off berth is not going to happen, nor should it. This tournament is just constructed and executed poorly. Should've been something during All-Star Break.
     
  5. RudyTBag

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    Boring even for Grizzley fans?!?!?!?
     
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    The games last night were pretty good - especially for a random Friday in November. The Warriors were acting like they won a title.

    The tournament is great if you like watching basketball.*

    *Unless you're a Grizzlies fan as they're horrendous and already basically eliminated.

    But if you like complaining about paint jobs - it's also extra great!

    There's literally something for everyone @J.R. @what - cheer up!
     
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    It is a fresh idea to call rando games a tournament, waive with Dollar bills, and go to Vegas.
     
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    “Let’s convince all you dopes that these games are special. No, it’s a Wednesday night in Milwaukee. That’s what it is.”

    Michael Wilbon rips NBA In-Season Tournament: ‘Stupid trophy and orange slices’


    Michael Wilbon isn’t digging the NBA’s inaugural in-season tournament.

    The host of ESPN’s “Pardon the Interruption” said on Friday’s show that players shouldn’t need “a stupid trophy and orange slices” for motivation to compete during the regular season.

    “I’ll give you a couple of reasons,” Wilbon said in a discussion with co-host Frank Isola. “It’s already supposed to count, Frank. It’s a game on the schedule. These aren’t separate games. It’s a game on the schedule you’re paying good money to see. Players are being paid to play these, and now you’re telling me, ‘I’m gonna assign something else.’

    “Speaking of our obsession with analytical junk, so I’m gonna assign something phony to it, let the marketing people run my league. The marketing people are gonna say to you, ‘Go watch this game, we’re gonna assign it an extra value, so then we can give people orange slices and trophies at the end of it.’

    “If it’s supposed to matter, Frank, let it matter… Let’s convince all you dopes that these games are special. No, it’s a Wednesday night in Milwaukee. That’s what it is.”

    Wilbon added that Michael Jordan never would have needed added motivation, even early in the season.

    “He didn’t need a phony cup,” Wilbon said. “He didn’t need a theft from soccer. This is to satisfy all the under-40 soccer heads…Frank, I know it’s gonna work. I didn’t say it wasn’t smart. It is smart. It’s a straight lift, so it can get a whole generation of kids that might go, ‘Ehh, I don’t know, I’m watching [the] Champions League.’ They’re gonna pull some of those kids away. It’ll work.

    “It’s a marketing ploy. That’s all it is. It may be genius. I’m cynical. I’m like, stop it. Don’t try to tell me it means something additional, ’cause it doesn’t.”

     
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    He sounds pretty angry for something that doesn't matter. I can't believe he managed to work in a "Michael Jordan would never."
     
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    A Twitter thread on why i don't care about the midseason tournament

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  12. JumpMan

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    The NBA is different, but overall better than I have ever seen it since I started paying attention to it in the early 90s. I do wonder why scoring is up. If it's better offense, worse defense, or a combination of both.

    The players are definitely more talented as a whole, but a lot of players - like prominent players on the Rockets, sadly - look like they don't know how to play. I do wish the power-forward position was still a thing, but those dudes kept the game from growing.

    It's all give and take. I don't know how to make the NBA more popular or interesting. If they were a steak place, they'd be serving the best steak in town, but people ain't going as much as before when they steak wasn't as good.o_O
     
  13. Easy

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    The setup is kind of hard to understand. A lot of people are confused. If it is not plainly understandable, casual fans won't care enough to try to figure it out. It doesn't help that NBA.com doesn't even have a nicely laid out tournament standing page for people to follow the progress of the tourney.
     
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    They are trying to make casual fans care about the regular season. They need to realize no one pays attention to the NBA until after christmas
     
  15. DaDakota

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    They are trying to do what soccer does, but they don't have the lower league portion.

    DD
     
  16. astrosrule

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    i don't hate this as much as the playin crap, but it still sucks and the courts make it unwatchable
     
  17. SamFisher

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    What sucked about Fridays games?
     
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    courts made it unwatchable, i tried watching mavs nuggets but couldn't
     
  19. SamFisher

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    "Courts hurt my old man eyes, a play in 43 acts"
     
  20. napalm06

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    50% officiating, 50% 3-point shot selection.

    The NBA knows scoring is what people come to see, so any amount of physicality is frowned upon. Sometimes even phantom calls are made repeatedly to "protect" a star. The boundaries of what a flagrant 1 is have changed significantly in the last 5 years. While it's a huge bonus that they got rid of the hack-a-Shaq strategy, games still can degenerate into free throw contests. The FIBA World Cup was a great example that basketball can still be a flowing game when it's not constrained by modern NBA officiating.
     
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