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The Glen Rice Jr. story

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    http://www.nba.com/2013/news/featur...ce-jr-nba-draft-2013/index.html?ls=nbahpfull3



    This is a story about a boy trying to become a man, doing seemingly everything in his power to disrupt and delay the process, and then facing two roads.

    Glen Rice Jr. won't have to wait ages and ages to tell his story about the less traveled road he hopes will make all the difference in his career and his life. He'll have a rapt audience when he shows up at the NBA's Chicago pre-Draft camp this week.

    The story begins on March 13, 2012, when Georgia Tech coach Brian Gregory kicked Rice off the team after an incident at an Atlanta nightclub involving two other men, alcohol and guns. Rice was charged with permitting unlawful operation, a minor offense compared to the DUI and discharging a firearm charges that his friends received. But it was strike three for Rice at Georgia Tech.

    Rice a 6-foot-6 swingman, had begun his junior year under suspension, played well enough after being reinstated to lead the Yellow Jackets in scoring, rebounding and steals, then got suspended again in February, never to return. Rice's father Glen Sr., who won a national championship at Michigan and an NBA title with the Lakers, remembers the day he got the call from his son.

    "I'm not going to lie," the elder Rice. said. "You're upset. But at the same time, you're not going to turn your back on your son. I had told him several times, 'Look, the road you're going down, it's the wrong way. Some of the things you're doing, that's not going to help you in life. It's not going to help you get to the NBA. People don't want to deal with something like that.'"

    After Rice Jr.'s scorched-earth career at Georgia Tech -- which included a five-game benching during his sophomore year under then-coach Paul Hewitt -- a return to college basketball wasn't likely. If he had wanted to transfer he would have had to sit out a year anyway.

    Rice seemingly had tossed away any chance he may have had at playing in the NBA.

    For help, the elder Rice turned to his agent, Jeff Wechsler, whose company, 24/7 Sports Management, has developed a reputation for taking care of its clients well after their playing days. The company represents Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes, two of the NBA's brightest young stars.

    Wechsler offered what seemed to father and son like a radical option -- the NBA Development League.

    "We sat down and talked about what Glen Jr.'s goals were," Wechsler said. "His goal was to play in the NBA. So for him to transfer and sit out another season in college didn't make a whole lot of sense. My suggestion was the D-League, where he could play and compete on a professional level and show he was mature enough to deal with the rigors of pro basketball in a much different environment.

    "In the D-League, you're not getting paid what you could make in other pro basketball leagues. The lifestyle, the travel ... it's hard on you. It's demanding. You have to be mentally prepared to be able to handle something like that. And then be prepared to work hard in practice and be a professional and deal with the fact you may not see a lot of playing time early."

    The father wasn't so sure at first.

    "I'm old school," he said. "And for me, coming up, one of the options you always heard about was playing overseas. When the D-League came into the picture, it's not that we were against it. But I knew that road would be a lot harder to travel.

    "As a basketball player, skill wise, I knew Glen could handle it. My biggest concern was that it would be real easy to get discouraged or lose focus, especially when you're not playing."

    Rice Jr. was chosen in the fourth round of the D-League draft by the Rio Grande Valley Vipers. But minutes would be hard for Rice to come by on a team that already had Terrence Jones, Royce White, Andrew Goudelock and other more experience players.

    Rice started out at the bottom of the Vipers' roster and was deactivated and reactivated during the course of the season.

    "He did a great job of having patience," Vipers coach Nick Nurse said. "We told him that he would eventually get a chance [because of NBA call-ups] if he just stayed patient and worked."

    That wasn't easy.

    "It was frustrating in the beginning," Rice Jr. said. "Any basketball player, no matter how good, wants to be on the floor. Not getting a chance to play was really frustrating, but it's also humbling, and it makes you look back on things you've done in your life. For me, it helped me mature, and it made me mentally strong."

    Once the player personnel movement that Nurse talked about began happening, Rice was elevated a few notches in the Vipers' rotation. Through the first 22 games he played just 147 minutes. But on Feb. 4, Nurse gave Rice his first start. It was as auspicious debut.

    Knocking down 6 of 10 3-pointers, Rice scored 35 points and grabbed 15 rebounds. More importantly, the confidence that had ebbed during his long months of little or no playing time soared.

    "It was an amazing feeling," Rice said. "Once I got out there, once I finally got my chance, I just wanted to do well. I needed to know that the hard work I'd put in had paid off. We had lost our go-to guy, Andrew Goudelock [signed by the Lakers]. A couple of us knew we had to step up and take a bigger role."

    Even Rice couldn't have imagined how big a role he would play, and what it would eventually mean. In his final 10 games, during which the Vipers won the D-League championship, Rice played every position from point guard to power forward, averaged 39.2 minutes, 25 points, 9.5 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 2.0 steals, 2.0 blocks and shot 47 percent, including 36 percent on 3-pointers.

    Former Tech coach Hewitt, now at George Mason, kept up with Rice during the early part of the D-League season but lost track after a month or two. That's why he was surprised to get a call from an NBA scout in March.

    "He said, 'You're not aware of what's going on, are you?' " Hewitt said. "So I looked up Glen's stats. He'd turned it on."

    Yes, he had turned in on, and in the process Rice Jr. -- who's now eligible for the June Draft -- didn't just revive his NBA chances. He turned himself into a commodity.

    Wechsler, who now represents the younger Rice, has been taking a growing number of phone calls inquiring about his newest client. "I'm getting teams at the end of the lottery to the end of the first round calling and wanting his schedule," Wechsler said.

    There's a lot to like about Rice. He's got requisite NBA two-guard size and length to go with explosiveness and a reliable 3-point stroke. That combination is rare enough, but he also has passing skills, rebounding ability and is continuing to improve defensively.

    "No question he's an NBA player," said Hewitt, who sent 10 of his Georgia Tech players to the league. "He's extremely talented, and got a great IQ for the game."

    Said Nurse: "When you can shoot like him, that translates to the NBA."

    Robin Pound, a pioneering college and NBA strength and conditioning coach, has been working out Rice for the last two weeks trying to prepare him for Chicago. Pound is a no-nonsense type who calls things as he sees them, the perfect mentor for Rice. Despite the short time in which he's had to evaluate him, Pound is sold on Rice's ability.

    "It's been a crash course for the kid," said Pound, who has worked with NBA superstars and edited the books Condition the NBA Way and NBA Power Conditioning. "We're trying to cram as much in as possible as far as preparation. We don't have much time, and it's not fair for me to compare him to other players. But I'll say this: The kid can score. Mid-range, post-up, transition, finish at the hoop, 3-pointer. As part of his preparation, we're working on all those things.

    "To me, the more diverse you are, the more valuable you are. I haven't seen anything Glen sucks at."

    No one who has been around Rice for any length of time has been concerned about the skills part of the equation. But this week in Chicago, when he begins interviews with NBA teams and the media, everyone will want to know about what he has learned since his rocky college career.

    "Iman Shumpert [a former Georgia Tech teammate of Rice's now with the Knicks] called me the other night," Hewitt said. "He said he was talking to Glen, and Glen told him he'd finally figured out just to keep his mouth shut and play. Iman said, 'Why couldn't you have figured that out in college?' "

    For Rice, it's a case of better late than never.

    "Everybody makes mistakes," Rice said. "I made mine. The most important thing was to own it, accept it, and try to learn from it. Which I have. I'm ready to move forward. Whoever said, 'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger' knew what they were talking about. I feel like that's what's happened to me."

    "My son took a hard road," Rice Sr. said. "But going into the D-League, it was my hope and belief he was going to show everybody who the real Glen Rice Jr. was. That he was no longer the immature guy who had made bad decisions.

    "The D League is not easy. I'd had conversations with Glen and had seen him sitting on the bench. As a former player, I question whether I could have done that. But Glen did it, and now he's got a chance to live up to everything I'd hoped for him. I couldn't be prouder of my son."
     
  2. hahachui

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    hope rockets could sign him with their second round pick...
     
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    Glen Rice Jr Story > Mike Conley Story



    just kidding ...



    probably won't last to our 2nd round pick
     
  4. Haymitch

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    Good deal. I'd take a chance on him if he were around for our 2nd round pick, but that almost certainly won't happen.
     
  5. hahachui

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    i think he went undrafted ...and keep hoping rockets signing him this season
    stupid me
     
  6. RickyNewport

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    We need a wing player off the bench and he would be a good one...
     
  7. Blake

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    To paraphrase:

    Spoiled, entitled $hit kid blows his chances in college, joins d league, stops whining, plays lights out at the end of the season
     
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    can someone fill me in to why he isnt ours if he was signed by our affiliate?

    I dont know much about how the DL works :(
     
  9. TriCkz

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    Cause he never entered the draft.
     
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    You dont have the rights to your d-league affiliate players unless they have a real nba contract with you and you assign them to the d-league.

    Glen Rice Jr went straight from college to the dleague and didn't enter the draft, so we can't even sign him like we did with Tim Ohlbrecht, unless he goes undrafted or we draft him.
     
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    No NBA team can sign a player until they have been eligible for at least one draft. But Rice got kicked out of GT his junior year and he could have entered the draft that summer but he decided not to but he was still eligible for the draft last year. He went to the D League and got drafted which made him automatically eligible for the 2013 draft, but he was still eligible for the 2012 draft so this will be the 2nd draft he's been eligible for.

    Rules state that an NBA team can not sign a D League player unless they are eligible to play in the NBA (meaning one year removed from your graduation class in high school). This rule is in place because players can join the D League straight out of high school. Nor can they sign a player if another NBA team owns their draft rights (meaning a team couldn't take Royce White from us while he was playing down there).

    Rice is 22 years old and has already been eligible for a draft before he joined the D League so I believe the Rockets could have signed him. Unless the rules state a player has to declare for the draft... Different story, but whenever I search for information I always see the word "eligible".

    But either way it's in his best interest to enter the draft especially since he can go in the first round and become an instant millionaire with guaranteed money (like Royce White got). He would have a Tim Ohlbrecht contract otherwise. So even if the Rockets could have signed him, it's good for him they didn't but we're possibly missing out on a good player.
     
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    My understanding is that Rice signed a contract that made it impossible for any NBA team to sign him. He basically agreed not to take any contract offer so he could officially enter the NBA Draft on the back end. Again, that's my understanding from my source.
     
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    So the Rockets do not own the Vipers, but they completely control all personnel that are involved in basketball operations. They may send anyone from their team to the Vipers to develop and no one from another NBA team may play for the Vipers. The non-NBA players that are on the Vipers are drafted each year, so you will likely be missing every single player from the championship team next year, minus Royce White... who was technically on the roster and was on the roster that got handed out to the crowd even though he was in Houston.

    If you watched any games this year, you might have heard of Andrew Goudelock. The Viper made a trade for Andrew, my guess was to mimic the way Harden plays, mid-season. He was also signed by the Lakers after Kobe went down. I think he was the league MVP. Anyway, the Lakers could do that because he did not have a contract with the Rockets, only a D-League contract with the Vipers.

    Does that clear it up?

    Side Note, this should tell you how good of a coach the Vipers have in Nick Nurse. The Vipers lost their best player, Royce White, Terrence Jones, D-Mo and still won it all. If you ask me, that's a coaching championship.
     
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    I can understand that if he was saving himself for the draft.
     
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    I can understand that if he was saving himself for the draft.
     

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