Yeah, that's propaganda by those who want to convince the public either to give up on Brexit or to accept being a vassal. They had similar propaganda leading up to the referendum. This is what happens when you have a Remain government in charge of Brexit.
Sure you did. You claim all planes will stop, then claim the UK will have no control on their imports. It's either one fear tactic or the other. You can't use both of them even on r****ds that think either one is likely to happen. If they accept a Canada +++ deal you won't be able to use either.
Also, speaking of the abomination that is the EU, how do those living under the 4th Reich feel about how the EU just decided to end the notion of fair use when it comes to copyright law? Between newly passed articles 11 and 13, they've effectively destroyed a lot of the internet for their subjects to the point where memes will now become illegal and a lot of the internet will have to be censored by AI filters.
Brexit has been joke, this is the result of dumb populism and playing old folks for fools by using nostalgia.
There’s a reason why the hard Brexiters can’t get anything done... because their policies and ideas are terrible.
Just because the aviation paper hasn't been released today doesn't mean I make it up. Plus the French minister said it herself. It has to do with clear rules and regulations. If there's no deal the UK will have to negotiate anew with every country if it wants their planes to land or pass over their airspace. Ryanair's president tonight said that if there's no deal there's NO way that the UK before 29 March will be able to negotiate it beforehand. UK will have no control over goods regulation if it accepted Chequers. BTW..Do you have ANY idea how long it took to negotiate the EU- Canada trade? Years and years. But smh Boris believes they can negotiate in 3 months. Okay.
I didn't hear any clear policy or idea when it comes to the Irish border. Only "it's not such a big deal and we will find smth that works".
Because there were no international flights before the EU. International law regulates flights, te EU has wormed it's way into things but I think only idiots actually believe flights will stop. I'm sure the French will miss the billions in farm subsidies and millions of consumers from it's customs union protecting their vested interests but fear mongering is fear mongering.
there were no international flights before the eu? what? The were many between the two WWs and certainly were before 1975 when the UK joined. Having agreements for use of airspace is what every country has and the UK will be left on 1 April 2019 with NONE, if it crashes with no deal. It has nothing to do with any worming of the sneaky EU. Only an idiot would believe that other countries will allow foreign and uninvited planes to pass over their airspace and land in their soil. Clear rules and international laws => fear mongering...unbelievable LMAO
Apologies I forgot your english is not 100%. That was dry sarcasm. My point was flights existed before Maastricht and will continue. False So wait, now Greece doesn't want UK tourists? That's seems a very poor policy for your economy.
False? Care to elaborate with which country the uk has a bilateral agreement over use of airspace? Why would I want illegal immigrants? If and once those famed for their excellent behaviour in foreign countries people can enter legally then they are welcomed.
The UK represents something like 15 or 16% of the total GDP of the EU.....anyone who seriously thinks that the EU would refuse to do business with them after a hard Brexit is an absolute fool. Refusing to trade with the UK would be like refusing to trade with the US, it would cripple the EU.....and it would hit Germany harder than any other country and we know Merkel won't allow that.
The ICAO is not the EU and it is not bilateral. Tourists are not immigrants. Much like the WTO, the UK doesn't lose all international agreements after leaving the EU. They helped setup most of these things.
so name a country that the UK has right now an agreement with on their own name and not the EU and can land their plane. One? UK citizens who have entered the country with a plane illegally landing after tresspasing the airspace are no better than any other illegal immigrant from the Middle east or elsewhere. When they will have an agreement to legally land their airplane on my country then they will be welcomed like everyone else legally entering.
This argument is as foolish (and obviously as full of anger) as saying the UK needs to regain WTO status. Asking me to name a country when I already explained that the ICAO does not consist of bilateral agreements shows either misunderstanding or willful deceit. The UK has the highest level of membership in the ICAO council along with Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russian Federation, and the United States. Fear mongering and telling people there will be no medicine or food is absolutely shameful.
LOL Here is what the UK's Department of Transport said today " “We believe that it is in the interests of both sides to ensure continuity – but it is only sensible to prepare for a range of scenarios. “That is why, as the [European] commission will not yet engage with the UK on contingency planning, we have proposed bilateral conversations with member states to discuss arrangements we could put in place to ensure continued air connectivity.”" So according to you bilateral agreements are not needed but according to the government and the aviation industry they are. I wonder who is right? Here is some more: "At the strike of midnight in Brussels on 29 March 2019, when Britain leaves the EU, UK-made parts for planes will no longer be legally valid and its pilot licences will be defunct in the eyes of international regulators acting under agreements with the bloc." You can all the government the economists and the aviation industry as fear mongers but I bet they know more than you about the laws and regulations.
Probably Chris Grayling the Secretary of State for Transport “It is inconceivable that planes will stop flying. It is not going to happen.”
way to move the goalposts. From no bilateral agreements needed to Grayling finding it inconceivable...after having ALREADY failed to negotiate over the summer and got caught redhanded. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-closest-ally-after-brexit-may-tells-cabinet "Dominic Raab has been reprimanded by Michel Barnier after the EU’s chief negotiator discovered the British government had written to the 27 other member states asking for side negotiations on transport in the event of a no-deal Brexit. The Brexit secretary was confronted by Barnier during their most recent meeting in Brussels over correspondence sent in recent days to EU capitals by the Department for Transport. The letters had asked the member states to prepare to engage with the British government in side deals on aviation and haulage, to allow key trade flows to continue in the event of the UK and the EU failing to come to an agreement on leaving the union by 29 March 2019. The transport secretary, Chris Grayling, had ordered the letters to be sent despite being told less than two weeks ago by the European commission’s most senior trade official, Violeta Bulc, that without a deal this autumn, there would be no other agreements made to protect the UK economy. Barnier is said to have reiterated that message to Raab, telling the cabinet minister: “If there is no deal, there is no trust.”" In conclusion with NO bilateral agreements UK planes can't pass over or land in any country. UK has right now NO bilateral agreement.
You just brought up the Department for Transport, I gave you a quote from the minister in charge saying the planes will not stop. Explain in detail how I moved the goalposts. If you don't want quotes from a Minster, don't bring up his department. Moving the goal posts is you saying all planes will stop at the border and UK will be isolated to now talking about bilateral with the 27 member states. That's quite a shift as most people understand there are more international destinations than the EU. You apparently don't tho you shift back and forth between scenarios and context. Is this deceit or ignorance?
