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The Axis of Cohen

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What does a shell corporation have to do with campaign financing?

    You're just linking terms you heard on Law & Order
     
  2. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Cant' take a joke?

    So being serious here. Do you realize that a lot of your defense of Trump is that simply he is rich and that he is not a risk taker? You seems to have completely miss all the risk taking he has taken all his live and continue to do so while president.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Again we know where the Kohn Edwards momey came from. A campaign funder he asked directly for the money.

    Juzt because trump set thd payment up through a shell doesn't mean the money came from his pocket

    The shell is so the woman couldn't come back with bank records saying look i got this check from Donald Trump
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Yes he is rich and can payoff floozies

    I know exactly what im saying. Thats why mwn wannabe rich
     
  5. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    You don't get it.

    Trump had Cohen set up a shell company to funnel this money because he didn't want it to become public.

    A giant line item reading "250K payment to p*rn star" on his campaign finance records would raise a few questions.

    Trump could have paid McDougal directly/personally, but it would have still violated campaign finance laws because the payments were for political purposes to protect and advance the interests of his campaign. Trump would have been obligated to record the payment as a campaign contribution regardless, although he probably wouldn't have since he's an idiot or a cheat depending on the day. I'll admit in this instance if he had paid her personally nobody would likely know, at least as of this moment, but there's no way he could have known his lawyer would have the full force of the FBI come down on his head.

    This is why you vet people and don't run absolute slimeballs for office. Even if you're a billionaire, campaign finance laws still apply to you and it's part of the apparatus we've constructed to keep our elections transparent and prevent turds like Trump from getting into public office.
     
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  6. pgabriel

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    What do you mean the payments were for political purposes. Youre just copying and pasting.L. from a web article


    What payment to whom are ypu talking about. None of that **** matters.

    Only thing that matters is where the money CAME FROM in terms of campaign financing. Did someone give some money to Trump for a commercial and he in turn gave it to this chic?
    You fail to understand its Trump's money. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it
     
  7. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Timeout.

    It does not matter if Trump spent his own money or someone else made the payment on his behalf (and knowledge/consent, thanks tapes!) with or without the promise of repayment. The fact of the matter is that any payment to silence the story of an extramarital affair with a p*rn star by Donald Trump two months before an election is by its very nature a political/campaign expenditure. There is no need to parse out who paid what. The smoking gun is out and sitting in front of everyone. The only thing left to do is watch Republicans twist themselves into knots trying to explain it away before the inevitable impeach proceedings.
     
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    How could you possibly know that?
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Cause he owns a big ass tower in Manhattan with his name on it
     
  10. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    pgabs has watched the apprentice-- have YOU, smart guy?
     
  11. pgabriel

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    Oh thats such a stupid reach but i understand you are getting this from the media.

    I agree now on the mechanics. There is nothing illegal about it especially if shs accepts the money
     
  12. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    yeah, I put in a good faith effort to explain it, but I'm done.

    Trump dun goofed.

    Consequences will never be the same.
     
  13. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    You have demonstrated you don't know very much about what you have posted. That's not too unusual around here. What's a bit unique is knowing little, holding lot of assumptions and making hard conclusion from that base. Dare I said that's quite Trump like? It might help if you are willing to soften those conclusion.

    Your defense is pretty ridiculous. He is rich > thus he's not a risk taker > thus of course he wouldn't do this.
     
  14. pgabriel

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    Bro, the story isnt even that he used campaign contributions. At least donny understands that.

    The rest of you guys god bless yall don't understand how ridiculous it would be for him not to use his money
     
  15. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    You, of all people, should not be talking down to anyone about this issue.

    Really? You think a mega millionaire with a cohort of high powered lawyers whose job is to basically make problems go away by navigating the legal jungle would not be the preferred tool to use to make an illegal hush money payment to a p*rn star you porked while married?

    And just to hammer this home for you one more time -- it does not matter whose money was used as it still constitutes a felony campaign finance violation.
     
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    Imagine wanting to hitch your wagon to Donald ****ing Trump this badly. @DonnyMost explained it to you. The source of the money isn't what matters. What matters is that it was used as a political tool to silence a negative story before the election.

    You also don't know that he's a billionaire. He never released his tax returns, so we don't know anything.
     
  17. adoo

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    PGab's lack of understanding manifests itself,

    clueless as to "in-kind" contributions to a campaign​
     
  18. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    It does not matter whose money was used now because of the recordings. We have Trump, on tape, being a knowing and willing party to the payment. That implicates Trump as a felon. He knew the payment was happening, he ordered the payment to happen. Guilty. Whether it came from him or his surrogates does not matter anymore thanks to the tape. We don't need a paper trail showing Cohen paid X to Y and that Trump paid X to Cohen shortly thereafter, although we probably have that now too lol.
     
  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Well, we know about the bankruptcies, some of the massive loans, and some fraudulent business practices, FWIW.
     
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  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    All of you guys are acting likd Mueller is at that guys door with this.

    Just like i was right about him nof being a Russian spy, ill be right about this
     

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