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Super Bowl LVII: Philadelphia Eagles vs. Kansas City Chiefs

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Jan 29, 2023.

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Super Bowl LVII: Philadelphia Eagles vs. Kansas City Chiefs

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  1. Eagles

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  1. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/4182176/2023/02/13/patrick-mahomes-super-bowl-officiating/

    Super Bowl LVII ended the way the AFC Championship Game ended two weeks ago, with the Kansas City Chiefs kicking the winning field goal while millions lamented the penalty that made it all possible. Is this what commissioner Roger Goodell thinks has never been better about officiating?

    Text messages from coaches around the NFL were flying back and forth Sunday night after a call for defensive holding against the Philadelphia Eagles’ James Bradberry allowed the Chiefs to run down the clock before punching through a chip-shot field goal for a 38-35 victory, their second Lombardi Trophy in three Super Bowl appearances over the past four seasons.

    “Terrible! Not one holding called all game!” a game-management coach protested.

    “Way to f— up a great game,” a former head coach raged.

    “Late flag tells me the K.C. sideline called for it,” an exec speculated.

    1. Officials hadn’t called defensive holding all game, but with the score tied 35-35 and the Chiefs in the red zone with 1:54 remaining, deep wing John Jenkins flagged Bradberry for restricting JuJu Smith-Schuster. What gives?

    First things first. While the world decried the call, Bradberry himself admitted guilt.

    “It was a holding,” he said after the game. “I just didn’t know if he’d call it.”

    Referee Carl Cheffers stood by the call during an interview with Pro Football Writers of America pool reporter Lindsay Jones, which is how referees always roll in these situations. It’s easy to see why defending their own is ingrained in officiating culture when the commissioner himself claims things have never been better.

    Bradberry’s uncommon grace and Cheffers’ stock answer do not change that Jenkins, a nine-year NFL official, threw a flag in a situation when officials frequently do not throw flags, with legacy-altering consequences.

    “You know how many times that route gets run and it is not called?” a veteran offensive play caller said. “It’s a play teams perennially send into the league and never get the call. Guys grab like that all the time. If it stopped the receiver from getting to the ball, I understand, but that was not the case.”

    The resulting first down let the Chiefs run down the fourth-quarter game clock sufficiently to leave Philly with only eight seconds after Harrison Butker’s 27-yard field goal.

    “What we all want in that situation is for the officials to do their conference and pick up the flag and say, ‘There is no flag on the previous play,’ ” a game-management coach explained. “But the problem is, the crew does not have multiple sets of eyes on that play because the contact occurred before the ball was thrown.”

    Jenkins, the deep wing, would have been the only official with eyes on Smith-Schuster and Bradberry when the flag was thrown. Other officials would have shifted their focus to that area of the field once the pass left Mahomes’ hands toward Smith-Schuster.

    Because defensive holding is a judgment call, rules prevent the NFL’s officiating command center from using “replay assist” to spur a quick reversal without a formal stoppage. No matter that Fox’s 44 cameras dedicated for game coverage quickly provided replays calling into question whether such a call was warranted.

    “There were two restrictions on this play, and neither was enough for a foul in my opinion,” the game-management coach said. “It looks bad because you want competitive plays at the end of the Super Bowl instead of Mahomes kneeling it down to center the ball for the kicker.”
     
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  2. Andre0087

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    No surprise their contesting the results of anything in Arizona...either way my wallet is feeling good after the Chiefs' win. iT wAs RIggEd!! lol
     
  3. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Having back to back title games decided on ticky tack calls is pretty nauseating.
     
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    Cant stand all of these Maholmes coverage going on right now. Any good qb will do just as good if they had the best OL like the Cheifs or even the Eagles.
     
  5. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Get ready for more and more state farm commercials with Pretty Boy ad nausem...BLECH!
     
  6. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    100% true. It probably was a hold but how many times had that play been called and the refs called it holding? Whether it is basketball or football or anything else, players play according to how the refs are calling the game. If the refs are calling everything (aka a tight game), then that is one thing but if they are letting them play and then decide to call a flag late in the game, then that is outrageous. Whatever happened to let the players decide the game? That play is probably a no call 8 times out of 10. Too bad this ref decided to make an impact on this game.
     
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  7. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Really great game with a sour and anticlimactic ending.

    With the massive rise in legal online gambling, which is a 50+ billion dollar industrial complex as of 2022, I'm convinced that refs in every sport are compromised and are either getting paid and/or are under the threat of violence to decide scores and game outcomes.

    U.S. Set Gambling Record In 2022 With More Than $54.9 Billion In Revenue
    Will Yakowicz
    Forbes Staff

    the $53.04 billion record by 13.5%, according to data collected from state regulators by the American Gaming Association. (These numbers do not include the nation’s tribal casinos, nor does it include illegal gambling.)

    Casey Clark, a senior vice president at the American Gaming Association (AGA), says the gaming industry has bounced back after a punishing pandemic-induced recession. “To have already surpassed the record numbers we hit in 2021 with a month to spare is really remarkable,” says Clark.

    Across the country’s 33 commercial gaming jurisdictions, 30 reported year-over-year revenue growth over the same period in 2021. (Washington, D.C.’s sports betting market saw nearly a 15% decline while Mississippi and South Dakota saw revenues drops of 3.7% and 1%, respectively.)

    Slot machines and table generated the most revenue out of any other form of gambling. Slots and table games across the U.S. generated $43.79 billion, a 6.7% increase over the same 11-month period in 2021. Sports bettors wagered $83.13 billion from January through the end of November. Sportsbooks only generated $6.56 billion off those wagers, but it’s a 65.4% increase over the same period in 2021.

    In Nevada, the country’s epicenter of gambling, the state’s casinos already broke last year’s historic revenue record of $13.4 billion by November. Through the first 11 months of 2022, casinos in Nevada generated $13.5 billion in gaming revenue, up 10.2% over 2021, according to the Nevada Gaming Control Board. The Silver State has also been on a remarkable winning streak as gamblers have spent more than $1 billion a month for 21 consecutive months.

    New York, meanwhile, has become the country’s largest sports betting market. In the Empire State, bettors wagered a total of $16.7 billion through mobile app during the market’s first year in operation, according to the New York State Gaming Commission. Sportsbooks across the state generated $1.4 billion off those wagers.

    Brendan Bussmann, the managing partner of B Global, a consulting firm focused on gaming and hospitality, says it’s a good sign that the industry racked up two years of record-setting revenue after getting crushed by the pandemic in 2020. “Not only has the industry bounced back from the pandemic but the industry has expanded,” says Bussmann. “It’s going to continue to percolate and the industry will be in a good position for 2023, regardless of what happens with the economy.”

    Bussmann says he expects a small slow down in 2023 due to economic headwinds but he believes the public’s views about gambling have evolved and it’s now seen as a form of entertainment, not a vice. The worry now is that economic pressures could cut into discretionary spending. “We got to see where that discretionary income goes and where it stays,” adds Bussmann.

    When asked if 2023 will set another record, Clark remains cautiously optimistic. “The economy faced a lot of headwinds over the last year or two, but our businesses continued to expand and to grow,” he says. “I think we've got a strong foundation for continued growth.”
     
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    #128 KingCheetah, Feb 13, 2023
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  9. KingCheetah

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    Tha real MVP.

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    ^is it the first sb that was free to stream (directly from network)?

    Great respect.
     
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    Juju should have had one of his followers post it. Reveling in others failure instead of celebrating your own accomplishment undermines it, not a good look
     
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    Dear GARM...
     
  16. YOLO

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    JuJu has always been petty. not surprised. AJ's clapback was on point and actually true.
     
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    Dear JuJu in KC, you can't live your life in search of other's failures. Instead, focus on your own success. LOVE- ABBY.
    Dear Abby is written by Abigail Van Buren, also known as Jeanne Phillips, and was founded by her mother, Pauline Phillips. Contact Dear Abby at www.DearAbby.com
     
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    No kidding, it was an obvious hold, but I'm glad the conspiracy theorists had something to talk about.
     
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