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Step back and think about this: Food stamp use climbs to new peak in Obama's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    46.7 MILLION people in the US using food stamps. Over 15% of the US population. Fifteen percent! That is a national disgrace. I guess that's what happens when you expand social services and maintain unemployment above 8% for record lengths of time. There is no denying that Obama has failed miserably on the economy.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-to-record-46-7-million-in-june-u-s-says.html


    Food-Stamp Use Climbs to Record, Reviving Campaign Issue
    By Alan Bjerga - Sep 4, 2012 9:34 AM CT

    Food-stamp use reached a record 46.7 million in June, the government said, as Democrats prepare to nominate President Barack Obama for a second term with the economy as a chief issue in the campaign.

    Participation was up 0.4 percent from May and 3.3 percent higher than a year earlier and has remained greater than 46 million all year as the unemployment rate stayed higher than 8 percent. New jobless numbers will be released Sept. 7.

    “Unemployment is stubbornly stuck,” making it difficult to significantly reduce the number of food-stamp recipients, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said in an interview last month. “While people are going back to work, and there are jobs being added, they aren’t being added at a clip that is as robust as anybody wants.”

    Food-stamp spending, which has more than doubled in four years to a record $75.7 billion in the fiscal year ended Sept. 30, 2011, is the USDA’s biggest annual expense. Republicans in Congress have criticized the cost of the program, and the House budget plan approved in April sponsored by Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the party’s vice-presidential nominee, would cut expenses by $33 billion over 10 years.
    Cuts Planned

    Reductions to the program have also emerged as a point of contention in debate over a farm bill to replace current law that expires Sept. 30. The U.S. Senate in June passed a plan that would lower expenditures by $4 billion over 10 years, while the House Agriculture Committee the following month backed a $16 billion cut.

    Today’s report shows California with the most recipients, 4.012 million, a 0.8 percent gain from the previous month and 7.3 percent more than the previous year. Texas had the second- highest number of recipients, while down 0.4 percent from the previous month and 1.4 percent lower than a year earlier.

    Louisiana and North Carolina, where Democrats are convening this week to renominate Obama, had the biggest monthly gains in enrollment, 1.3 percent. Enrollment fell the most in Utah, down 1.4 percent from May, followed by Idaho and Ohio.

    Spending on what’s officially called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program totaled $6.21 billion in June, 0.4 percent higher than the previous month and 2.8 percent more than a year earlier. The record is $6.26 billion spent in September 2011.
     
  2. basso

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    food stamps = code for "poor"
    poor = code for "black"
    black = Rayciss
     
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    /tingled
     
  4. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    I agree, the state of despair Bush left this country in is deplorable. The American people deserve better. Thank god the last four years have seen atleast some progress away from terrible conservative legislation and the next four are looking to be in safe hands as well.
     
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  5. bigtexxx

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    ...and of course here comes the "Oblamer" line of defense.

    that excuse is tired and dated. He's had time...
     
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    HO HO HO HO HO HO
     
  7. CometsWin

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    Class warfare heroes!
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    The problem with this argument is that under Obama:

    Unemployment is up
    Household income is down
    The deficit has skyrocketed
    Gasoline prices have doubled

    All of this is AFTER Bush left. And this isn't even touching the argument that the Democrats were to blame for the housing crisis by FORCING banks to lend to under-qualified borrowers (social policies) and PREVENTING Fanny/Freddie from being reformed.
     
  9. MrRoboto

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    Things have never been better here. Maybe you just need to work harder and you and your buddies will make it off the food stamps, move out of your parents' basements and begin to progress in life?

    I suggest taking a break from this board for a while so that you can focus your energy in improving your obviously miserable and negative existence. Turn that frown upside down and find a path to happiness!
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Through hard work, I've been able to raise myself into the top 1% of Americans. I'm not ashamed of that, no matter what the democrats try to beat into my brain.

    However, I am sympathetic to those who are still struggling, and would like our executive branch to help the situation. I have not seen that help in Obama's term.
     
  11. MrRoboto

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    So your philosophy is that it is the government's responsibility to help those who are less fortunate?
     
  12. larsv8

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    Great points TJ.

    I agree, the man deserves credit not only for changing bad policies but also warding off a depression by having to deal with all of these items as a result of the previous administration or global issues completely out of his control.

    Its a shame he will only get two terms to rebuild our strength before the right weasels its way back into power and continues it quest to destroy this country.

    You really just have to sit back and admire the adversity he has overcome.
     
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    How come the truth keeps messing with your feeble mind, little one? :grin:
     
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    HO HO HO HO - Fixed it for you.
     
  15. dandorotik

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    Here is from an extremely conservative blog in my hometown:

    "Barack Obama remains fixated on blaming the economic problems that Obama has clearly created on President George W. Bush. The Bush Recession officially ended in June 2009. The Obama Stimulus, also known as “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009,” was in place but did not start to be implemented until after June 2009."

    My retort:

    Well, now, May, you've made even more of a case for Obama and you don't even realize it. Rather than using February 2009 as a starting point, you use June 2009 as the start for the "end" of the Bush recession.

    So, here's what happened: UE stood at 9.5% in June 2009. Following this, within 5 months, UE goes up to 10%, where it peaks. That's a mere 0.5%- that's a very small percentage, unless you don't understand math. Now, following this, UE goes from 10% to 8.3% as it stands now. Let's use 250 million as the population in the U.S. able to work (probably not exact, but it's a close ballpark). So, 9.5% of that is 23.75 million. Now, it goes up to 10%, which is, obviously, 25 million. Then, it goes down to 8.3%, which is 20.75 million. So, stimulus loses 1.25 million jobs and gains 4.25 million. Result? a 3 million net gain in employment. You see, I was willing to give you Republicans from the first full month of Obama's tenure to now- 8.3% to 8.3%.

    But if you want to use June 2009, then it's 9.5% to 8.3%. So, unemployment during this period has shown a net decrease, and this is where he ranks among Presidents since 1980:

    1. Reagan 2

    2. Clinton 2

    3. Obama 1

    4. Clinton 1

    5. Reagan 1

    6. Bush 1

    7. Bush 2

    8. HW Bush 1

    So, in terms of overall UE performance, comparatively speaking, Obama is #3 after Reagan's 2nd term and Clinton's 2nd. Thank you, Mr. May!!! You've made Obama look better!!!!
     
  16. mc mark

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    unlikely
     
  17. dandorotik

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    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1878509_1878508,00.html

    Blameworthy

    Angelo Mozilo
    Phil Gramm
    Alan Greenspan
    Chris Cox
    American Consumers
    Hank Paulson
    Joe Cassano
    Ian McCarthy
    Frank Raines
    Kathleen Corbet
    Dick Fuld
    Marion and Herb Sandler
    Bill Clinton
    George W. Bush
    Stan O'Neal
    Wen Jiabao
    David Lereah
    John Devaney
    Bernie Madoff
    Lew Ranieri
    Burton Jablin
    Fred Goodwin
    Sandy Weill
    David Oddsson
    Jimmy Cayne


    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html#ixzz25WADEieN

    Now, which name is not on there? S**K ON THAT!
     
  18. dandorotik

    dandorotik Contributing Member

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    Yes, like 1%ers would have time to post on this message board the way BigTexx does.
     
  19. dandorotik

    dandorotik Contributing Member

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    Obama didn't maintain the UE.

    Facts for the Uneducated:

    1. The federal government has a minor role in UE.
    2. What role they do have is jointly distributed between the legislative and executive branches.
    3. When you inherit 8.3% UE, and it builds up to 9.5% under the Bush recession, bringing it back down to 8.3% is an accomplishment. That's over 3 million jobs recovered from the Bush recession. The question is: do you attribute this to Obama, the Republican-majority House, or factors largely beyond their control?

    Believe me, I'd love to give the House some credit for helping to bring the UE down from 9% in 11/10 to now, but you can't have both. Either Obama and the House gets credit, or Obama and the House gets the blame. What say you?

    BTW, those facts are easy to calculate. Go to the Misery Index, go to UE Month-to-Month, and get out your calculator. It's simple.
     
  20. dandorotik

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    Here's the typical deceit of the Republicans:

    1. Food stamps- highest ever.
    2. Obama- responsible. Bad.


    Here's the truth:

    1. Food stamp recipients- much higher in a recession. Duh!
    1. Population- much, much higher than during the Reagan era. Otherwise, food stamp recipients would have easily been as high as now, particularly at the end of 1982 when UE was at 10.8%

    You see how the Pubs distort? The sad thing is that the uninformed will take it hook, line, and sinker. Matter of fact, don't be surprised to see Mr. 1% wave all this away as "making excuses for Obama." Of course, he'll conveniently ignore facts presented, but that's par for the course for that non-thinking shill. They took Johnny Cochran's playbook and made it into an art form.
     
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