Starbucks closing stores after 2 black men arrested

And that's just your assumption. You are assuming bias, which shows your bias.

Back on topic though, the fact that there are some people who got away with breaking the rules doesn't make it okay for anyone to break the rules. Situations like this are much easier to defend when there's an actual innocent party being wronged. The guys were breaking the rules, they got caught doing so and they refused to leave when the manager told them to, that makes what they were doing trespassing. They were then told to leave by police and they refused. This whole ordeal is 100% their fault and they absolutely deserved to be arrested.

 

Meh I think that is true sometimes but not so sure that is the case here. Starbucks got out in front of it and is getting an insane amount of free advertising out of this.

 

i'm assuming bias exists so i'm biased. lol good one farva.

 

Yeah, that's how that works. You are making assumptions about someone you don't know based on nothing but stereotypes.....I mean what would you call that?

Even then, it doesn't really matter, you aren't arguing that the 2 guys didn't get what they deserved, you are just trying to say that them getting what they deserved was racist....which is stupid.

 

About as stupid as arguing racism as an implicit bias does not exist...

 

Maybe. I have never heard of anyone I know being asked to leave and I have never personally seen it happen but I don’t troll Starbucks so maybe. If someone isn’t causing problems and isn’t homeless, I don’t know why it would be worth going through the effort to make someone leave.

 

Bro

Among regular people, any of the chains is fine to drink every day.

Just because something is expensive doesn't make it better.

I would never pay that much for coffee no matter how much money I had.

A 100 dollar bottle of Scotch is nice

I still choose Crown Royal

Next I'll say among normal people it's the most respected. It's just a cup of Joe. I doubt anyone in this thread but you spends that on coffee

100 dollar bottles of Scotch aren't meant to be consumed daily

 

Well first of all, I'm not arguing that it doesn't exist, I'm just suggesting that there's no evidence that it was a factor in this incident. You on the other hand are assuming then when black people are caught breaking the rules it has to be racism, which is really dumb.

Do yourself a favor and stick to what is actually being said.

 

I would bet you'd have only a few situations where people were not customers who were just hanging out and of those you'd have a ridiculously small number who wouldn't just leave when told to go, and out of those assholes left, maybe one or two who would be such assholes that they'd make cops arrest them.

This kind of policy is pretty common in highly populated areas and there's rarely any problems with it.

 

Bro with all due respect you don't know what the hell you're talking about when it comes to coffee. I do coffee for a living and you don't have to spend anywhere close to $100 to get excellent coffee. Just step out of McDonald's and go to one of the many craft coffee shops available in Houston and spend $4 for a drink and it'll blow the most respected coffee - McDonald's out of the water.

 

Lol you're assuming I'm assuming xyz; no where did i say that particular phrase you just attributed to me. Stick to whats being said.

From what I understand, there was an internal control to the scenario: another person who was there who hadn't paid who wasn't asked to leave.

My contention is that the implicit bias of who gets to stay is wrong, but I don't particularly care that its racism. It could be sexism, sexuality bias, etc... i'd probably still think its wrong.

I think having a conversation to find out if it was a case of implicit bias should be step #1, but i don't see how it hurts starbucks to have that conversation. It's their time and money.

 

You implied that the Starbucks manager 9 out of 10 times would go to the black guys and ask them to leave instead of the random white woman and suggested that there was implicit bias on the manager's part.

Suggesting that someone who wasn't caught breaking the rules means that the manager was merely targeting those who got caught is not a very good argument.

I think step #1 is having a talk about how assholes who break the rules and refuse to leave once caught are not victims.....even if they are black....or brown.....or female......or gay......or trans. Literally the only reason this is a story is because the 2 guys were black, so knuckle draggers assume racism is a factor.

 

Bobby wins again

 

Make an intelligent argument against what I'm saying if you want it to go differently.

 

Ok I will try some one day. You just didn't have to be a snob about it

Secondly the coffee you named didn't seem to come to four bucks a cup seeing the beans are so much more expensive

Thanks for the recommendation in all seriousness

 

I wasn't trying to be a snob at all. People can drink Starbucks and McDonalds all day long for all I care. Some will definitely gravitate towards the chains even after having some good craft coffee. I was just trying to point out that none of the chains are using respectable coffee. The darker the roast the shittier the bean had to have been.

 

You stated earlier that the white lady that had been seated there longer had not been noticed by management. I could believe that to be true since it may have appeared that she "belongs" there but do you know this to be a fact that she was not noticed. Your argument seems to be tied to that being a fact.

 

Yes I have.

 

LOL, or....she didn't draw attention to herself by asking to use the restroom without purchasing anything. But sure, always assume racism first before any other possibility.

 

I remember back in the day if you were in my club and you didn’t tip or drink then I would throw your ass out. I didn’t care if you were black brown white or green. I miss those days.