You know, that got me looking for the origin of all that in 2004. I think it came shortly after this post and lived for about 30 minutes, but it may have actually been a MR_ROBOTO forum or something. Ah, we were so young, and I used to be persistent. LOL. Here's a reference: (in an Iran-Iraq thread!) https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/iran-readies-to-invade-iraq.78773/page-2#post-1389462 Nope, finally, here is the original: https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/the-worst-bands-of-all-time.77285/page-4#post-1347506