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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. Granville

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    Go to sleep
     
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    Deflection. DING.

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    number of people killed by antifa/"violent communists" at charlottesville - 0

    number of people killed by trump supporting nazis at charlottesville- 1
     
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    You aren't really making a point, but I know you think you are. The fact that someone got killed does not change the fact that the violent white nationalists who were there are no worse than the violent communists who were there. They are all scum. If it had instead been one of the Antifa communists who drove into a crowd of white nationalists, that wouldn't change things.

    By pretending there is a difference, you are part of the problem. There is no Charlottesville incident without the rise of identitarian politics with BLM and later the rise of Antifa. The thing all of those groups have in common is that they are subscribers to a version of Marx's conflict theory....and they are based in hate. When BLM took to the streets and started burning down towns due to not getting the lynchings they were after along with murdering cops in the streets for the same reasons, it led to the rise of white nationalist groups which were almost non-existent before that. The conflict also gave rise to Antifa who thrive on hate and chaos. The more hate you throw into this, the worse it's going to get.

    While I fully understand the appeal of seeing people like Richard Spencer get sucker punched, doing so, or failing to condemn those who do so only adds to the problem because while you might feel smug about "sending those types of people a message".....you just set it up to where they have to send a message back. As things continue to escalate, it's only a matter of time until people end up dead.
     
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    so we are back to the trumpian "both sides" argument. the people protesting the nazis are just as bad as the nazis. more false equivalency.

    by pretending they are the same, you are part of the problem.

    there are no trump supporting murdering nazis without trump and his inflammatory rhetoric.

    look at you blaming "identitarian politics, BLM and antifa" for heather heyls murder. its not the fault of the trump supporting nazi...its not the fault of trump for stoking the flames of racism and divisiveness. its the fault of BLM and antifa. pathetic.

    while i fully understand why you like seeing heather heyl get murdered by a trump supporter, failing to condemn trump and his rhetoric or his supporters who engage in this behavior only adds to the problem because while you might feel smug about "sending those types of people a message" you just set it up where they have to send a message back. as things continue to escalate the reality is that we see trump supporters attempting to kill more people. and trump not taking any responsibility for his rhetoric, instead blaming democrats and the main stream media.
     
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    It was a true statement when it was first said, it's still a true statement now. Not everyone at the protest was a "Nazi", there were likely some "very fine people" among that group that simply didn't want to see the statue torn down. At the same time, not every counter protest was a violent communist or identitarian, there were likely some "very fine people" in that group as well.

    Perhaps the nuance of that goes over your head, but that's a "you" problem if that's the case.

    Pretty much what I expected, a feeble minded response that misses the point.

    That's simply not true, but again, given your mental handicaps, I could understand why you'd be so laughably wrong.

    Dylan Roof had nothing at all to do with Trump....he was directly radicalized by President Obama's comments supporting the identitarian narrative about the Trayvon Martin incident. Of course in the mind of a fool suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, I'm sure you still blame Trump for it anyway.

    They absolutely are at least partially to blame. Groups like BLM and Antifa are what revived white nationalist groups in the US, they were nearly non-existent before that nonsense began. Also more directly they are responsible by showing up to the protest and causing it to be violent in the first place....including attacking the vehicle potentially causing him to freak out and hit the gas in the first place.

    This nonsense began long before Trump and all groups involved are to blame.

    That's just stupid kid. The incident at the Charlottsville protest was universally condemned. I think the problem here is that your mental handicaps are really preventing any productive conversation here. I suggest you seek help and when you are better, we'll continue this.
     

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