@Trader_Jorge and @Commodore jacking each other off in this thread is elite loony right wing erotica. Cmon boys, don’t stop now.
^^^ This is what a losing argument looks like. Mountain of evidence backing Giuliani, so the libs have to just go into the gutter with insults. Liberals are taking our justice system back hundreds of years with their actions. And they wonder why their cities are unsafe and crime-ridden...
As usual, york (and commodore) seems woefully lacking in knowledge or (more likely) dishonest. While the verdict is big by any standards: $16,171,000 to Freeman for defamation, $16,998,000 to Moss for defamation, $20 million to each for emotional distress, and $75 million total in punitive damages. So in other words, the plaintiffs' lawyers asked for $48 million in damages, and received (in total) around $75 million, not $150 million. The jury then added PUNITIVE DAMAGES of another $75 million. The jury made the decision what rudy did was so wrong he should be punished for it. Hopefully the punishment will deter others from doing it.
Might be hard to successfully argue how unreasonable the penalty is when he continues to damage the victims...
I didn’t mean to interrupt your lovemaking with your guys. If the jury so failed Rudy, I’m sure the learned appellate court will right this grievous wrong, what with the proverbial mountains of evidence. But I’m so confused. I thought it was the crooked judges that were the problem, you know, like the ones who threw out all of trumps election fraud lawsuits? So it’s the judges and the juries. Maybe we should change the entire legal system. Hmm, how about trial by combat? I seem to recall Rudy and Trump would like that. As for the cities, I suppose you can take solace in the fact that those disgusting cities are the economic beating heart of this nation and subsidize the fly over states that bring up the rear of the education train in this country.
The liberals are so deranged that they will choose to rip apart the country and torch the judicial system if it means that they can "get Trump". These people are totally unfit to serve -- they are not mentally stable at all. They can't see how their need for short term revenge can instill lasting damage on the country and its institutions. They are very dangerous. Republicans cannot get a fair judge or jury in DC or NYC... or in inner-city Atlanta either, for that matter. Liberals are using our judicial system in these places to attack and punish political dissent. THAT is the crime here. I do take some solace in the fact that independent voters see what's happening and are shifting their support to Trump. Which is why he's leading in the polls. Only the most angry, divisive partisans on the left believe that the legal assault on Trump is justified.
Ripping the country apart are those that stormed the capitol in an effort to overturn a free and fair election. Those that are supporting and tolerating the candidate indicted on more than 90 charges and is currently only free because of bail. That is doing more to rip apart the nation than anything the liberals have done.
LOL at the naivete. Do you think that if the protesters truly were there for an insurrection and to overturn (invalid) election results, they would have showed up unarmed? Your position just makes no sense. You'll believe whatever the state-run media tells you. Very naive.
They weren't unarmed. They had weapons including guns. They've been convicted of carrying guns on Capitol grounds. Get your facts straight https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...rmed-gun-jan-6-found-guilty-charges-rcna80387 https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/...and-assaulting-law-enforcement-officers-jan-6 Insurrection was a word you used and wasn't in my post. But no matter what the ones assaulting law enforcement officers, smashing into the capitol, stealing, and damaging, the building while threatening to murder the Vice president of the United States are guilty of doing more to destroy this nation than liberals. I don't care if you label it insurrection or not.
I'll just point out one example of how you are dishonest and try to mislead. Apparently 2 people, out of thousands, had guns on them. The man from Indiana got rid of his before entering the Capitol. How many people dispose of their gun before launching their insurrection? That's illogical. But you choose to say, "they had weapons including guns". "They"? How about, 1 person had a gun at the Capitol. Does it make sense to you that a pre-planned insurrection would choose to take a single gun? Just an attempt to mislead on your part. This was a protest of voter fraud that was incited by federal agents who literally broke windows, cut fences, and directed people to the capitol... then fired rubber bullets into the crowd to agitate while other agents were motivating the protestors to enter. Photographers were pre-positioned inside and out to capture the scene. The US does this type of operation internationally with frequency. Now they did it at the Capitol as a way to smear, imprison, and bankrupt their political opposition and sway public opinion. And prevent Trump from running again. Hard truths that you will struggle to grasp, because you naively believe the government only does good and honest things.
Don't know if you are citing infowars or quanon daily or some other maga news source, but from the last report (July 2023) from the DOJ, Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer. Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60 from the Metropolitan Police Department. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/30-...e pleaded,have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.
In legal terms, “armed” means being in possession of any weapon, not just a firearm. While there are laws that specifically address firearms, weapons can include virtually any object used to threaten or cause harm. According to a database compiled by NPR, of the people charged with violent offenses, including assault on police officers, 15 were armed with deadly or dangerous weapons during the riot at the Capitol. Eight others facing civil disorder or property destruction charges also were charged with possessing weapons, according to the database. Those weapons included baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole. Thomas Webster, a retired New York Police Department officer, was charged with attacking a Metropolitan Police Department officer with a metal flagpole. The federal complaint says he struck at the officer “with the flagpole numerous times.” Before and after the storming of the Capitol, NBC News reported, police seized a dozen firearms, including an assault rifle, and thousands of rounds of ammunition from seven people attending the rally for President Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. Other weapons included a crossbow, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails. The FBI, in a statement to FactCheck.org on March 5, said Sanborn had testified “in her capacity as the FBI Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division. Her responses were restricted to FBI investigative matters and she appropriately deferred to other law enforcement partners for their information.” https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/c...wzTbKIHw5tuToImFO3zqXLDS7vbPLkpsaAi0OEALw_wcB I have a feeling those of you who have done a 180 on what happened on J6 (I get it, your LEADER needs you to) will never admit it, but you know it was an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power.................how about "jury by Combat" or "Hang Mike Pence"...............after your LEADER made the maga gop members change there tune, you all had to follow......I get it man. BUT.............boy if the other side did this, you would ALL be screaming bloody murder.
