Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

When someone stated your work completely exonerated them I guess he felt the need to clarify that wasn't the case. He also never stated he wanted to impeach the president, he put the facts there and it's up to Congress to decide.

 

Mueller: Obama was asleep, quit blaming Trump.

 

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another person that is completely brain washed

 

This is from Defense One, an excellent site for those with an interest in the military and defense in general, both here and abroad. It's a hobby of mine, likely due to growing up around WW2 and Korean War vets. This site tends to be impartial in its views. glynch loves me for it. ;-)

www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/05/mueller-can-do-no-more-now-its-congress/157333/?oref=d-river

Mueller: Russia Interfered, Trump Obstructed. Now It’s Up to Congress.



Read our report, says the special counsel: the evidence does not exonerate the president.

Robert Mueller has advised Americans to go back and actually read his report if we want to understand what happened in 2016. “We chose those words carefully, and the work speaks for itself,” he said on Wednesday morning, speaking for the first time since his appointment.

But the words of the report are damning.

“The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,” Mueller wrote. This help “favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.”

The Trump campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts,” and it “welcomed” this help.

There is insufficient evidence to accuse the Trump campaign of criminal conspiracy with its Russian benefactors. However, “the social media campaign and the GRU hacking operations coincided with a series of contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”

These contacts were covered up by a series of lies, both to the special counsel and to Congress. Lying by the Trump campaign successfully obscured much of what happened in 2016. The special counsel in some cases “was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.” In particular, the investigation never did determine what happened to proprietary Trump-campaign polling data shared with the Russians.

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Within hours of the appointment of a special counsel to investigate 2016 events, Trump began defaming him. Trump had already fired the FBI director who investigated these events. His first order to fire the special counsel appointed in the director’s place was issued on June 17, 2017, a month after Mueller’s appointment. That order would be followed by many more. Trump directed his staff to lie about these orders.

Over and above his efforts to fire the special counsel, “the President engaged in a second phase of conduct, involving public attacks on the investigation, non-public efforts to control it, and efforts in both public and private to encourage witnesses not to cooperate with the investigation.”

The subversion of the investigation was brazen. “Many of the President’s acts directed at witnesses, including discouragement of cooperation with the government and suggestions of possible future pardons, occurred in public view.”

Obstruction of justice, though, need not be clandestine to count as a crime. What matters is intent—and that is a matter that must be judged by Congress, not a special counsel subordinate to the Department of Justice and bound by its rule that a president cannot be indicted.

The full report is rich with details. But that’s the essence. A foreign power interfered in the U.S. election to help the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign welcomed the help and repeatedly lied about it. The lying successfully obscured some questions the investigation sought to answer; in the end, it found insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy. President Trump, in public and in private, worked to stop the investigation.

Those are the facts. What are the remedies? Mueller underscored at his press statement: He did not exonerate the president. Under the Department of Justice rules he was subject to, he lacked the power to act.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration refuses to take steps to secure the next presidential election against the interference that swayed the last. The question of why Russia so strongly wished to help Trump remains as mysterious as ever. In particular, if you wish to understand the breadth and depth of Trump’s Russian business connections before he declared for president in 2015, Mueller’s report will not help you.

Mueller says he can do no more. The rest, Congress, is up to you.

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This appears to be a side-by-side comparison of what barr reported and what Mueller reported...

 

It boils down to exactly what Mueller said; He is there to gather the information. Just like its a detectives job to gather information and its the jury/judges responsibility to pass judgement.

For those who are not biased on the subject, the outcome was already well predicted. There is enough evidence to warrant the investigation but not enough evidence to proceed any formal legal preceding. This allows the pro-trumpers to claim "innocent until proven guilty" and the anti-trumpers to justify their pursuit of impeachment. In the end, nothing was going to happen. Time to move on from this nonsense. Its been Benghazi'ed enough.

 

# total exoneration

“Its Obama fault that Trump had no choice but to share information with an adversarial country.” Lol.

 

Yep. Per Mueller’s report... the Trump campaign’s key players deleted evidence, submitted written responses, and pleaded the fifth.

Hard to make a legal case when you don’t have all the info. However we do know that Trump’s campaign had communication and shared information with Russians linked associates then asked his people to lie and cover up.

Mueller intentionally didn’t clear Trump from any crimes.

 

Brain?

 

"Nonsense"? Which nonsense, the part of Mueller's statement about Russian interference in our elections that favored trump and hurt Clinton (and from Mueller's report, trump's campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts,” and it “welcomed” this help?

Or the part that Mueller found that while there was insufficient evidence to accuse the Trump campaign of criminal conspiracy with its Russian benefactors, there was “the social media campaign and the GRU hacking operations coincided with a series of contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”?

Or the part that there were numerous instances that Mueller's report listed as possible instance of obstruction of justice, but because of DOJ guidelines and the inability to get truthful testimony and evidence (that was destroyed), Mueller couldn't come to an indictment?

Which of all the above do you consider "nonsense"?

 

Its not Muellers responsibility to clear or convict anyone of any crime. He is there to present the findings of the investigation. Nothing more.

If there is a lack of information, then there should be no case. In this country, we dont prosecute individuals because dmoneybangbang doesnt like them. Evidence should be required, unless you think its perfectly fine to prosecute w/out sufficient evidence like this country has done to minorities in the past.

 

We do have enough evidence to prosecute for obstruction and I predict Trump will be criminally indicted for any of the myriad of cases he's currently being investigated for from obstruction, to money laundering, to campaign finance violations, to charity fraud violations and so on and so forth once he leaves office unless statue of eliminations expires if he is re-elected and serves an additional 4 years. Mueller is abiding by DOJ guidelines and writes in the report that he may be criminally indicted after he leaves office. He believes in 10 distinct cases of obstruction.

We all agree that there is not enough evidence on conspiracy with the current Russian regime for a criminal indictment. More specifically, there is not sufficient evidence for a criminal indictment specifically on the charge that the Trump administration willingly helped the Russians hack and obtain private DNC correspondences. It's well established that Trump's campaign, more specifically his son, did willingly and gleefully accept help from the Putin regime in terms of their support and willingness to exchange dirt on a political opponent and did not report a foreign adversary's outreach on illegally obtained information on Americans. Is that enough for a recommendation of a criminal indictment? According to Mueller, no. Is it enough for removal from office, I believe so.

 

But the presidency isn’t just any “individual” otherwise he would have been indicted per Mueller. We wouldn’t know what happened without the investigation. Trump won’t be prosecuted but impeached for his actions in this context.

Trump clearly acted inappropriately and tried to cover it up. That shouldn’t be swept under the rug; whether or not impeachment occurs is another matter.

 

Lol, Mueller goes to great pains to assure Trump both his executive privilege as president and his due process rights as a person, and this is what he gets for it:

 

Right. The guy bent over backward to work meticulously within his confined constraints. It's called extreme professionalism. @Commodore and people like him are amazingly delusional. They think Mueller is disgraceful, yet they are like dogs loyal to Trump. I read a long time ago that reality can be such that up is down, down is up, right is left, left is right, just basic opposite of actual reality and I thought how can that be. These folks open up my eyes.

 

I shorted the stock market yesterday so I say we burn it down. Impeach, impeach, impeach....