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Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

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  1. MojoMan

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    I have to laugh at the idea that Biden will be replaced. The democrats have no real strong reason to replace him. If they wanted him gone, they could have kicked him to the curb after a slow start. Biden has been on fire for months now.
     
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    What do you think of those three people you named?

    The more I hear from them I get the feeling they are just trying to capitalize on the the outrage culture and become the equivalent of the Fox news for the far left.

    They definitely pander to a specific audience.

    I knew Cenk was a bit of a radical but when did Ball cross the rubicon?
     
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    I guess they needed a new post-Michigan narrative since the one they were pushing about Michigan exemplifying Bernie’s electability and ability to build a broad coalition of support never materialized.

    Add Kyle Kulinsky and Michael Moore to that mix too, although Moore is a lot more reasonable than the others mentioned. He was just spectacularly wrong about impeachment and Michigan.
     
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    I don't follow them that closely and am not that impressed. The Young Turks had some good moments but I agree about capitalizing on outrage culture. I didn't know about Ball or Enjetti until not that long ago. I like the Hill as a news outlet but the opinion show is very disappointing. Ball and Enjetti's takes sound like a lot of the same stuff we get here on Clutchfans D&D or Facebook. Honestly it seems like there is more thoughtful and diverse discussion here.
     
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    I knew Ball from a show she did on MSNBC it was a round table with 4 other people and was well done with a lot of nuance and SE Cupp was a panelist.

    She never said anything bad against Obama and was pretty even keeled with her takes its jarring to see her now.

    I always knew Cenk was a blowhard and he has had it out for MSNBC since he was let go.
     
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    The women who are apparently Joe Biden's potential VP picks are remaining silent about the formal charges of rape filed against the presumptive nominee for the Democrats. Of course these women were in the vanguard of the "Believe all women" movement during the Kavanaugh hearings, where of course no corroborating evidence was ever presented and certainly no formal charges were ever filed.

    Biden’s potential VP picks silent on sex assault allegations against likely Dem nominee

    Biden has been accused of sexual assault by a woman named Tara Reade, who was a staff assistant to Biden when he was a senator. Reade came forward early last year to say that Biden inappropriately touched her -- as multiple women did around that time -- but didn't get much publicity for her story outside of a local newspaper article.

    Reade filed a report with Washington, D.C., police on Thursday concerning her allegation that Biden penetrated her without consent in 1993. Fox News has confirmed with the District’s police department that she filed the criminal complaint, which does not reference Biden by name.

    In addition to Harris, Warren, Demings and Yates, Fox News reached out to 12 other Democrats who have been speculated about as possible running mates for Biden, asking them for comment on the sexual assault allegations against the presumptive nominee.

    Fox News reached out to Klobuchar; Whitmer; Baldwin; Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H.; Sen. Maggie Hassan, D-N.H.; New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham; Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev.; Sen. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill.; Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms and former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams through her voter rights organization Fair Fight.

    None responded.​

    The lack of moral integrity that is emanating off of these women - all of who apparently desire to run on the same ticket with this man - reeks in a particularly nasty fashion.

    Surely if they had any moral integrity, they would be insisting that the brakes be put on former VP Biden's candidacy while these serious charges are pending against him. They advocated more extreme remedies that this with regards to Brett Kavanaugh, and of course also against President Trump, even with no corroborating evidence and no formal charges filed.

    This is going to be an issue in this campaign. Mark it down. In fact, it is still not impossible that the Democrats change course and end up with a different nominee.
     
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    The Democratic Socialists of America have announced that they are not endorsing Joe Biden.

     
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    This will certainly hurt his chances in Brooklyn.
     
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    Sure he has the leverage. Don't know of any indication that he's actively using it.

    I thought after the Access Hollywood tape that people would not for Trump (incrementally, anyway). I didn't think he should pull his candidacy or anything. Voters get to choose, now that they know, if they want a sexual predator as president. They said they did, to my surprise. But the election is there. It's a different process with a Supreme Court Justice. He's not elected. He's not term limited. It's not really comparable at all. Voters will get to choose which sexual predator they want to go with this fall.
     
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    Man this is politics, moral integrity has no place here.
     
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    Of course the issue in the quote that you responded to was not related to the voters or what they should do. It was the Democrat left women who are listed as potential VP candidates to run on the ticket with Joe Biden, who has now been criminally charged with rape.

    Without any such criminal charges filed - ever - and without any corroborating evidence, these women were for pretty much climbing over the top of whoever they had to to proclaim the need to "Believe all women" with regards to Christine Blasey Ford's allegations against Kavanugh. A number of them then openly attempted to publicly ruin the man, and his family, in what was one of the top two most despicable political displays we have seen by elected federal officeholders in the history of our country. The other was of course the failed effort to weaponize our intelligence and legal agencies, and also the impeachment process to overthrow a duly elected president of the United States.

    But now the Democrats are apparently going to nominate a candidate for President who is under charges for rape. What do we hear from these women now? Condemnation? Calls for him to step aside until this is worked out in court?

    Bwahahaha! No! They are publicly endorsing Biden and want to be his running mate.

    You really cannot make this stuff up. This is really nasty stuff and they have done it to themselves. Nobody has made them do it.
     
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    Literally zero, if this is any indication.
     
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    Trump has made it a non-issue. You have one suspect accuser against Biden, and a christmas list of women with for more legit allegations against Trump. First you need to address the later.

    Oh, and by the way, the nomination is over, so you can retire your troll thread and get back to posting non sequitur cartoons.
     
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    The nomination will be over when the nominee is officially nominated.
     
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    In that case, keep bumping this pointless thread
     
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    It’s sad that a fellow like Biden is the best the Democratic Party has to offer.
     
  18. bobrek

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    It's also sad that Trump is the best the Republican Party has to offer
     
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    And the state of politics reflects that. The days of JFK, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton where there were real presidents with thinking power where in charge are long gone. Both parties are suffering
     
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    Joe Biden would pick Michelle Obama as his running mate "in a heartbeat". However, he does not think she is probably interested.

    Biden says he would pick Michelle Obama as running mate 'in a heartbeat'

    Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said in a new interview that he would have no hesitation picking former first lady Michelle Obama to be his running mate, but added that he doubts she is interested in the position.

    “I’d take her in a heartbeat,” Biden told Pittsburgh’s KDKA on Monday when asked if he’d choose Obama if she said she would be willing to be on the ticket with him. “She’s brilliant. She knows the way around. She is a really fine woman. The Obamas are great friends,” Biden added.

    Biden, however, said that he doesn’t think she is interested in the position. “I don’t think she has any desire to live near the White House again,” he said.

    Biden said he’s still in the process of deciding whom to pick. He again committed to choosing a woman but did not commit to choosing a woman of color.​

    Do not be surprised to see some Democrats try to change her mind.
     

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