LA IN: CP3 & AD NOP IN: Capela, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, LA 2019 first, LA 2021 first, Houston 2020 first PHI IN: Gordon & Nene HOU IN: Holiday & Butler Hopefully sign Rivers with MLE and Shump with BR. Look to sign a center like McGee or DJ. Sign Faried for the vet min. Fill out the roster with a vet min 3/4. And finally hope that Clark and Hartenstein keep developing. Holiday/Rivers Harden/Shumpert Butler/vet min PJ/vet min/Clark DJ/Faried/Hartenstein
Jimmy Butler version of the Atlanta proposal but with Philly getting the 10th pick and Miami getting another juicy expiring contract to go along with Ryno’s deal. I like Huerter. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y2nvks7q CP Harden/Huerter Butler/Prince PJ/J Green Dedmon(trade)/Olynyk Dedmon was mentioned in another thread as part of a sign in trade deal so I’m going with it. Give Atlanta a second as well. Would have to get a vet pg to sign for cheap along with another center if no Dedmon. For Butler it would be worth it. Second unit: CP Huerter Prince J Green Olynyk A lot of length and shooting.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine Unfortunately, it doesn't. Sounded like a pretty cool trade for all parties though . But I don't think any of these teams can add enough players to make this work within the rules lol .
I think it will when FA begins and LA has all of that cap space. NO opens up a lot of space with this trade. I’m not sure if it gives the Rockets any room.
send paul to pistons, would be funny with Griffin there. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5nuc4n8
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3r8esk5 Clint to Atlanta for 10th pick. Send 10th pick plus future 1st to Miami. Send 2nd to Atlanta to help entice them to do the deal. 2nd to the Knicks for a backup defensive minded pg to replace Rivers. CP/Frank N Harden/Gordon Winslow/Prince/House PJ/J Green (MLE)/Clark ?/Olynyk/? We lose Clint, a first and 2 seconds. We can buy back into to second round if needed. We add youth and quality depth at the wing. We keep EG and PJ. We add two stretch bigs with experience to our bench. If the right center(s) sign for the minimum this team could have a chance. I think Miami may be willing to move Winslow for 2 firsts.
Step #1 (before draft) Outgoing salary - $53.4 mil Incoming salary - $28 mil Cap savings (step 1) - $25.4 mil Rockets get picks and length: PHX 1st round pick (#6) CHA 1st round pick (#12) Marvin Williams ($15 mil expiring) Michael K-Gilchrist ($13 mil expiring) Suns get veterans: Chris Paul ($38.5 mil) Bismack Biyombo ($17 mil expiring) Hornets get help for Kemba: Clint Capela ($14.9 mil) Tyler Johnson (19.2 mil expiring) Josh Jackson ($7 mil) Step #2 (before draft) Outgoing salary - $12.1 mil Incoming salary - $27.1 mil Rockets get: Anthony Davis ($27.1 mil) Pelicans get: #6 overall pick (from CP3 trade) #12 overall pick (from Capela trade) PJ Tucker ($8.3 mil) Nene ($3.8 mil expiring) (3) Rockets' future 1st round picks. *That's 5 first round picks + PJ Tucker + future cap relief for AD. That might do it.* Starters Harden Gordon Kidd-Gilchrist (6'7") Marvin Williams (6'9") Anthony Davis (6'10") Bench Austin Rivers (full MLE) JJ Redick (free agency) Anthony Tolliver (free agency) (6'8") House (bi-annual exception) (6'7") Hartenstein (7'0") G. Green (vet min. again) (6'7") 2 real All NBA players. Starters are a Top 3 defense. Rebounding and length is fixed. Plenty of corner 3 snipers (Marvin, Redick, Tolliver, House, Green)
I've seen a lot of fantasy trades but does anyone have a reasonable trade that could happen? CP isnt getting dealt.
Honestly think CP3 going to the Bulls or Lakers are a possibility. Dont think the Bulls would part with Markkanen but maybe Dunn and their 7th pick? Then using that (or a 3 way) to get Jrue from the Pelicans would be a good get for us. Bulls.. can afford it. And adding CP3 to that young core would get them to the playoffs. Thats a better team than the Magic and Pistons in my opinion. Plus they dont have to pay anyone for a while so holding onto to CP3s contract is somewhat justifiable. I understand CP3s decline in value but i think teams could see that 2 dominant guards (even though it worked well in year 1) may have been more of a problem than just CP3 getting old, and can work in our/his favour. The Lakers thing has been talked to death and doesnt seem unreasonable to me either.
it's cool but I'm sure someone would cut us out of the deal, up their offer (Philly/LA) and end up with Holiday themselves.
Philly doesn’t have much left to trade after the Butler and Harris deals. What else could LA include?
Could the Lakers just take on a lot of Paul’s salary with their cap space and send just some of the cap cost back to us in talent? Kind of like they signed him in away and traded for him, too. Ball & Ingram plus 20+/-M in cap space. — New cap space +Shumpert expiring 11M= MAX = Butler — Gordon For S&T WCS @ 13.5M or less — Sign House long and low — Capela For Pick & smaller contracts —> other — Going Forward: Harden, Butler, Tucker, Ingram, WCS Bench: Ball, House, Clark, Hartenstein, Pick (maybe) & other (maybe) It’s good to dream...
Shedding CP3 and renouncing Shumpert's bird rights leaves you with $15.447m in Usable cap space. You also have $8.484m in cap holds. (I show the math in this post) That's just half way to Butler …. and to reach that you can take NO return salary. You can reach $23.931m in practical cap space by renouncing ALL Free agents and shipping CP3 out for ZERO returning salary.
This one is a bit out there. It assumes that Davis agrees to an extension this summer, which removes the risk of him leaving next year. Trade to technically take place before extension for salary matching purposes, Trade: Harden, Gordon for Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday, Frank Jackson - add picks as needed either direction FA: Offer MLE to Jeff Green, re-sign Rivers, G Green at vet min and House at $2m Starters: Paul, Holiday, PJ, Davis, Capela Bench: Jackson, Rivers, G Green, House, J Green, Nene, Hart The defense on this team could win the title. Sub J Green in for Capela for more spacing and switching against GSW. Needs another 3pt shooter in the rotation.
Your math sadness me... Pull Butler out because Ball & Ingram together are 13/14ish themselves. Just enough left for House this way. Going Forward: Ball, Harden, Tucker, Ingram & WCS Bench: House, Clark, Hartenstein (need a point / combo guard —> doesn’t have to be great just needs to eat minuets —> not paying Rivers what his owed) PLUS—> Capela Pick probably goes to the Lakers for taking on Paul. (No long term commitment to move on from him).
The Miami Heat are expected to check in with the Houston Rockets on the availability of Chris Paul, Eric Gordon, and PJ Tucker, per @flasportsbuzz this is news now lol
