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Racism & Fear Mongering About Immigrant Crime

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Feb 29, 2024.

  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
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    Every time an illegal commits murder or a violent crime the fear mongering begins. The facts are the facts. Illegals don't commit more violent crimes than US citizens. There are over 45 homicides per day, and the vast majority of them are committed by American citizens.

    Is Trump a racist lying fear monger?

    His rant.....

    Vicious gangs and gang members are pouring into our Country from South America, and from all over the World. They are being FORCED out of their Countries, in particular Venezuela and Mexico, and DEPOSITED into the Good Ole’ USA by the tens of thousands. But here’s the “wrinkle.” THEY REFUSE TO TAKE THESE CRIMINALS BACK. They think Biden and his Administration are a JOKE! “They go after TRUMP, but they leave us alone. We can do whatever we want,” one of them recently stated. Not being able to bring the worst of humanity back to where they came from is a BIG problem for the U.S. Biden will NEVER be able to handle it. This is a COUNTRY DESTROYING EVENT!!! Just think of it — Foreign countries will be sending us their WORST, Gang Members, Murderers, Drug Dealers, Human Traffickers, Terrorists, their Mentally ILL, and even others, sick people, who need large scale medical help, and they have told the World, “WE WILL NEVER TAKE THEM BACK.” Biden is destroying our Country — “GO AFTER TRUMP!”

    It's interesting that even though Trump and the MAGA folks claim about millions of dangerous illegals have poured across the border that homicides went down last year.

    There were about 13% fewer homicides in the U.S. in 2023 compared with 2022. There were 21,156 homicides in 2022.

    Violent crime is dropping fast in the U.S. — even if Americans don't believe it



    Undocumented Immigrants Are Half as Likely to Be Arrested for Violent Crimes as U.S.-Born Citizens

    One contributing factor may be that individuals who emigrate from other countries to the U.S. are highly self-motivated and intrinsically less likely to commit crime. It is also possible that immigrants fear deportation if they are caught, so they are more careful to follow laws.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ested-for-violent-crimes-as-u-s-born-citizens/

    There is absolutely no proof that illegal immigrants commit more crime per capital than US citizens.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Devil's advocate: it's not about committing fewer crimes per capita, but rather additional crimes being committed that shouldn't have happened.

    If they are legal, then it's an acceptable risk and no one would bother.

    Because of this (illegal crimes is good politic), you can now understand why politicians have a high incentive to not solve this issue - to neither legalize nor reduce illegal immigrants. This is hot politics, and Trump and Republicans turned down a golden opportunity to help reduce illegal immigration by rejecting the bipartisan immigration reform bill.

    IMO, Democrats need to do a better job understanding the politics around this, the incentive behind it, and at the same time, acknowledge the issues it presents. They should also absolutely go on the offensive and blame Trump and Republicans for perpetuating the issue, harming Americans and our immigration system because it's good politics for them.
     
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    MAGA folks don't say it like that though do they? They don't say if we had less people in the US we would have less crime. They act like immigrants are the ones that are violent murderers. Out of say 45 murders a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, if a few illegals kill someone then they will be pointed out as the danger to our country, and the stereotype of all people coming across our southern border.
     
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    The people who keep blaming this on Biden seem to forget the times it happened while Trump was President.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    No, of course, they don't. IMO: Fighting that stereotyping is a winless game if all you do is defend the group. The non-MAGA are the ones you want to talk to, and while you should push back on the stereotyping, you should also acknowledge the genuine (not MAGA-generated) issue and be solution-oriented.
     
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    I see Fox News articles in my news feed daily pointing out every single time an illegal immigrant is arrested Despite illegal immigrants committing crimes at a lower rate than U.S.citizens.

    I've also noticed that they do the same thing with teachers being arrested for sex crimes with minors, despite the fact that those working for Churches are actually arrested for sex crimes with minors slightly more often.
     
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    What is the GOP solution, other than voting no to border funding? Waiting until their psycho Trump or some other GOP politician becomes President?
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    As a group, they have no interest in solving this issue. They are playing politics. Trump and GOP leaders are openly honest about it being good politics for the 2024 election.
     
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