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[Official] Texans Off-season 2020

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  1. Rudyc281

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    The Texans brass is yet to listen to any of Hop's offseason suggestions
     
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  3. Fulgore

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    Hop, Fuller , Kenny, and Watkins. Very nice core.
     
  4. TheRealist137

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    Complete the "reunion" by bringing on Dabo as head coach...
     
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    I don't have a comparison, but 18 seems like a ridiculous amount. Is that normal money? If so, not giving Bouye 13 is looking more and more stupid every year...
     
  8. gucci888

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    Highest paid CB right now is Xavien Howard at $15M/yr avg so $18M is quite a jump. Hard to compare Bouye's deal which is already 4 years old.
     
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  9. Mr.Scarface

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    Bouye was just traded for a 4th rounder because he was So BAD last year.

    Maybe Bouye needed better CBs around him to make him look good. Amazing how bad he looked when Ramsey left.
     
  10. houstonstime

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    Maybe that means we need to pay a guy like Ramsey and the rest of our CB’s will look better. Not Roby, but Ramsey (I’m talking level, I know we can’t actually get Ramsey)
     
  11. Mr.Scarface

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    No. It means you don't overpay for CBs who had ONE good year before wanting Elite CB money.
     
  12. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/1656893/202...ch-top-free-agents-best-fit-the-texans-needs/

    Below are players from the list who fit Houston’s needs, excluding Texans cornerback Bradley Roby and defensive lineman D.J. Reader because there’s no fun in the same old names. Ages listed are accurate as of the start of next season.

    CB Byron Jones
    Age: 27
    Previous team: Cowboys
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 9

    Jones is, in the eyes of many, the top corner on the market and he figures to get paid as such. Whether the Texans can afford Jones while factoring in potential extensions for Tunsil, Watson and Cunningham remains to be seen. A new CBA and potentially fast-rising cap could change Houston’s calculus. If the Texans land Jones, his arrival will provide the secondary with an instant, reliable upgrade.

    Jones can play man defense on the outside, the quality O’Brien most desires, or he can take on tight ends. Jones has been effective in zone coverage, too. Despite failing to grab an interception in either of the past two seasons, he’s one of just three corners to finish with a top 10 Pro Football Focus coverage grade in both years. The others? Pittsburgh’s Steven Nelson and New England’s Stephon Gilmore.

    CB James Bradberry
    Age: 27
    Previous team: Panthers
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 14

    Bradberry is hoping for a contract that pays him upwards of $15 million per year. That’s a hefty price for a corner who doesn’t get his hands on many passes and has never been an All-Pro or even a Pro-Bowler. Carolina, which drafted Bradberry in the second round in 2016, is not interested in signing him to such a deal or using the franchise tag on him.

    But Bradberry could find that money somewhere. He’s had strong showings against the NFC South’s elite receivers — Michael Thomas, Julio Jones and Mike Evans — and he’s durable. He’s started 60 games since entering the league, and in each of the past three seasons, he played at least 90% of the Panthers’ defensive snaps.

    OG Joe Thuney
    Age: 27
    Previous team: Patriots
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 23

    Veteran guards Zach Fulton and Senio Kelemete could be cap casualties, as cutting them would net the Texans $10.25 million in space. But what if, rather than use that money on the defense, Houston spent it on Thuney, who overlapped with executive vice president Jack Easterby in New England and should be the top interior lineman available?

    Fans are rightfully clamoring to improve the pass defense, but think about it. Assuming the Texans cut both Fulton and Kelemete, they would have to spend a draft pick or money in free agency on guard depth, anyway. And it wouldn’t take much more than the money freed up by cutting those two to make Thuney, on a per year basis, among the top-five highest-paid guards.

    If the Texans placed Thuney at his traditional left guard spot and moved second-year pro Max Scharping to right guard, they might actually be able to utilize the same starting line for a few consecutive years. Thuney has started 64 straight games, and according to PFF, he’s given up just one sack in the past two seasons.

    DT Javon Hargrave
    Age: 27
    Previous team: Steelers
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 28

    The Texans already have big money invested in edge rushers J.J. Watt and Whitney Mercilus, but they must find more interior pass rushing. Hargrave, who hasn’t missed a game in three seasons, provides that. He’s recorded 10.5 total sacks during the past two years. According to PFF, he ranked 10th among interior lineman in pressures (49) last season. Reader, for comparison, managed 35 pressures in a career year.

    Hargrave might be too expensive for the Texans, though. Houston is likely to prioritize spending on a cornerback in free agency.

    CB Chris Harris
    Age: 31
    Previous team: Broncos
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 31

    After cutting Vernon Hargreaves, the Texans need a new slot corner. Harris would represent a huge upgrade. He’s a one-time All-Pro who established himself as one of the league’s best while operating out of the slot, where he has said he wants to remain.

    This past season, Harris instead followed opponents’ best receivers all over the field, to mixed results. According to PFF, his passer rating allowed when targeted (109.4) was the worst of his career. That dip in performance, along with his age, makes his market hard to predict. Is his play declining? Or does he just need to change teams?

    CB Trae Waynes
    Age: 28
    Previous team: Vikings
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 34

    Per PFF, Waynes surrendered a catch per 7.6 snaps last season, the worst rate among the regular corners on a Vikings team that ranked seventh in pass defense efficiency. He’s started at least 14 games in each of the past three years but never broken up more than 11 passes.

    Waynes is in the second tier of free agent corners, but he still might’ve been the Texans’ best player at the position last season. Roby ranks one spot behind him among the top 100 list.

    DT Jarran Reed
    Age: 27
    Previous team: Seahawks
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 44

    If enough teams believe Reed’s 2018 season (10.5 sacks, 24 QB hits) is repeatable, then the Texans probably won’t want to pay up for him. But if the fact Reed has recorded five sacks and 20 QB hits in his other 40 games depresses his market, he could be a fit for Houston.

    In January, Reed called a contract projection that paid him $8-10 million per year “disrespectfully low.”

    CB Kendall Fuller
    Age: 25
    Previous team: Chiefs
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 46

    He can play outside or in the slot, and he’s one of the youngest corners set to hit the market, which should boost his stock. On the other hand, after starting 15 games in 2018, he dropped back into a rotational role this past season.

    CB Eli Apple
    Age: 25
    Previous team: Saints
    Where he ranks among the top 100: 50

    After Conley and Hargreaves, Apple — who primarily plays on the outside — looks like the perfect candidate to be the Texans’ next reclamation project at corner. He’s still young, he’s a first-round pick, and after playing well following a mid-season trade from the Giants to New Orleans, he showed he might’ve just needed of a change of scenery.

    The difference between signing Apple versus bringing in Conley and Hargreaves, of course, is that Apple won’t be on a rookie contract. Betting on him because of his draft pedigree is a more expensive, and in turn riskier, proposition.

    CB Logan Ryan
    Age: 29
    Previous team: Titans
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 51

    Ryan, who overlapped in New England with Easterby, is maybe the most versatile free agent defensive back. His 18 passes defensed last season were the league’s third-most, but he also recorded 4.5 sacks, eight QB hits and four interceptions. His 113 tackles would’ve ranked second on the Texans.

    He could not only serve as Houston’s slot corner but also take on some of the defensive responsibilities previously held by No. 3 safety Jahleel Addae, another free agent this offseason.

    EDGE Markus Golden
    Age: 29
    Previous team: Giants
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 69

    Considering his upside, Golden could be relatively cheap. In his last two healthy seasons (2019 with the Giants and 2016 with the Cardinals), he combined for 22.5 sacks. But in the two seasons in between those, injuries limited to 15 total games. Durability concerns, along with his age, might limit his market — which is perfect for a Texans team that needs pass rushing but won’t be in the market for a top edge rusher.

    EDGE Mario Addison
    Age: 33
    Previous team: Panthers
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 70

    Though listed as an edge defender, Addison can rush from inside, too. In the past four seasons, only 10 players have more sacks than Addison (39.0), but his age should keep his asking price down and leave him out of the initial wave of deals for free agent pass rushers.

    DT Quinton Jefferson
    Age: 27
    Previous team: Seahawks
    Where he ranks among the top 100: No. 98

    Not including the Chiefs’ Chris Jones or the Jets’ Leonard Williams — both candidates to be tagged — there are 14 defensive tackles on the top 100 list. Could that crowded market allow the Texans to get Jefferson at an affordable price? He’s started 24 games over the past two seasons, can play different spots along the line and has so far proven to be a slightly more productive pass rusher than Reader.
     
  13. clutch citizen

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    Byron Jones seems to have the versatility that BOB craves. Please announce Tunsil signing already. I’m getting more and more anxious by the day
     
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    I liked the idea of dropping Fulton and kelemente, signing Byron Jones and Thuney, then drafting DL, RB, and OG I’m just assuming BOB is going to use up all the cap since he doesnt care last 2 years.
     
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    Damn no ints since 2017?
     
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    https://theathletic.com/1658568/202...a-team-that-can-pull-off-a-trade-and-pay-him/

    Williams seeks a deal that would make him among the highest-paid tackles in the game. Washington desires appropriate compensation, likely in the form of draft capital.

    Are there teams willing to pay Williams $18-19 million annually and give the Redskins a second-round selection?

    The Cardinals and Texans have expressed interest in Williams, according to sources.

    Change of scenery: Arizona recently re-signed tackle D.J. Humphries to a lucrative extension, but its other tackle spot remains dicey. Houston made a splashy move last season by sending two first-round selections and additional assets to Miami for OT Laremy Tunsil. Entering the final year of his contract, Tunsil is reportedly seeking an extension with annual salaries topping $20 million.

    Vacancy: The Redskins have no viable backup plan at tackle. Last year’s starter, 36-year-old Donald Penn, is a free agent, and 2018 third-round pick, Geron Christian, remains a project.

    Compensation: Sources told The Athletic last season that a second-round pick was a realistic haul for Williams. That remains the projected return. Washington traded its 2020 second-round pick last year to Indianapolis to select edge rusher Montez Sweat. Adding a Day 2 pick for Williams could help find his replacement.

    Which teams might seek Williams? Beat writers weighed in with responses to that question and chose one of the following options: no chance, slim chance, or real chance.

    No chance: 49ers, Bears, Bills, Cowboys, Dolphins, Eagles, Falcons, Giants, Lions, Packers, Panthers, Raiders, Ravens, Saints, Seahawks, Steelers, Titans

    Slim chance: Bengals, Broncos, Browns, Bucs, Cardinals, Colts, Patriots, Rams, Texans, Vikings; Others: Jaguars

    Texans — A year ago, the Texans might’ve been among the first in line for Williams’ service. But since then, they traded a bounty to Miami for left tackle Laremy Tunsil. And 2019 first-round pick Tytus Howard performed well at right tackle. On the other hand, never count out GM Bill O’Brien to make a splashy move. — Aaron Reiss

    Real chance: Chargers; Others: Jets
     
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    So Williams and Tunsil both highest paid tackles in league at bookends? No draft capitol to speak of and giving up on Howard at RT?
     

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