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[Official] Texans @ Chiefs 10/20/2013

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The Colts blew the door wide open last night; they get Denver next and could very well be 4-3 when they come to town in 3 weeks. If we beat the Chiefs... yeah, you're right - there's nothing to suggest we can. But IF........ then the Colt game could very well be for first place (the Titans get Seattle and the 49ers these next two weeks). You'd be 2-0 in the division, 4-1 in the conference with Arizona, Oakland and Jacksonville next up on the schedule.

That's why I argued the Ram game really wasn't that terribly important. Important that they, you know, show up and correct a few things.... but if they win these next two, the season is officially on.

(I'll again agree that no one should buy a single lick of stock in this scenario... just outlining a very plausible path to salvaging the season.......)
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Blah. I mean, I understand the argument. We're only 2 games behind the Colts, anything is possible, blah blah.. but this team is playing horrible right now.

Could we beat the Colts and the Chiefs? Sure, anything is possible.

But it very unlikely. Even if we beat the Chiefs and the Colts... the Colts will still get us in Indi and will probably finish the season stronger.

This is all a "so you're saying there's a chance!" moment

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I actually think we win this game somehow... It's what we do!!!

#82 javal_lon, Oct 15, 2013
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Want to know why we beat the Chiefs?

OK... I'll try to pump some sunshine.

1) Alex Smith is not good. In fact, he's so not good, his QBR is almost as bad as Matt Schaub this season. And that's while playing on a "good" team.

2) The Chiefs are decidedly average at running the ball. About 4 yards a carry, with very little ability to run in short yardage situations.

3) Brian Cushing loves to play against guys like Jamaal Charles. Just ask Chris Johnson, whom he regularly shuts down. Dude just eats those little burners alive. He's especially good at doing this when the opponent doesn't have a pass catching TE threat, which the Chiefs don't.

4) The Chiefs OL is not very good. Not only will rookie Eric Fisher have to deal with Watt all day, but their LT, Branden Albert, is questionable with a knee injury. Also, their best blocking TE, Anthony Fasano, has been out for some time and is questionable. The Texans front 7 will feast.

5) The Chiefs cannot stop the run. They give up a whopping 5 yards per carry, and that's even with teams *throwing* the ball on them to catch up late. Foster and Tate should carve them up something fierce.

6) The law of averages is simply on the Texans side, and not on the Chiefs. The Chiefs have played the 3rd softest schedule in the league so far (behind Chicago and Denver). The Texans have made a lot of uncharacteristic mental mistakes. This has to even out at some point, why not now?
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good post

#83 Commodore, Oct 15, 2013
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BE4RD said: ↑

Want to know why we beat the Chiefs?

OK... I'll try to pump some sunshine.

1) Alex Smith is not good. In fact, he's so not good, his QBR is almost as bad as Matt Schaub this season. And that's while playing on a "good" team.

2) The Chiefs are decidedly average at running the ball. About 4 yards a carry, with very little ability to run in short yardage situations.

3) Brian Cushing loves to play against guys like Jamaal Charles. Just ask Chris Johnson, whom he regularly shuts down. Dude just eats those little burners alive. He's especially good at doing this when the opponent doesn't have a pass catching TE threat, which the Chiefs don't.

4) The Chiefs OL is not very good. Not only will rookie Eric Fisher have to deal with Watt all day, but their LT, Branden Albert, is questionable with a knee injury. Also, their best blocking TE, Anthony Fasano, has been out for some time and is questionable. The Texans front 7 will feast.

5) The Chiefs cannot stop the run. They give up a whopping 5 yards per carry, and that's even with teams *throwing* the ball on them to catch up late. Foster and Tate should carve them up something fierce.

6) The law of averages is simply on the Texans side, and not on the Chiefs. The Chiefs have played the 3rd softest schedule in the league so far (behind Chicago and Denver). The Texans have made a lot of uncharacteristic mental mistakes. This has to even out at some point, why not now?
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All that could have been said about the rams... :/

#84 thejav, Oct 15, 2013
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BE4RD said: ↑

Want to know why we beat the Chiefs?

OK... I'll try to pump some sunshine.

1) Alex Smith is not good. In fact, he's so not good, his QBR is almost as bad as Matt Schaub this season. And that's while playing on a "good" team.

2) The Chiefs are decidedly average at running the ball. About 4 yards a carry, with very little ability to run in short yardage situations.

3) Brian Cushing loves to play against guys like Jamaal Charles. Just ask Chris Johnson, whom he regularly shuts down. Dude just eats those little burners alive. He's especially good at doing this when the opponent doesn't have a pass catching TE threat, which the Chiefs don't.

4) The Chiefs OL is not very good. Not only will rookie Eric Fisher have to deal with Watt all day, but their LT, Branden Albert, is questionable with a knee injury. Also, their best blocking TE, Anthony Fasano, has been out for some time and is questionable. The Texans front 7 will feast.

5) The Chiefs cannot stop the run. They give up a whopping 5 yards per carry, and that's even with teams *throwing* the ball on them to catch up late. Foster and Tate should carve them up something fierce.

6) The law of averages is simply on the Texans side, and not on the Chiefs. The Chiefs have played the 3rd softest schedule in the league so far (behind Chicago and Denver). The Texans have made a lot of uncharacteristic mental mistakes. This has to even out at some point, why not now?
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So you're an apologist AND a homer?

Charles is going to run all over us lmao.

I agree Alex Smith isn't that good, but he also rarely makes mistakes..

The Chiefs are great at forcing turnovers, and the Texans are horrible at keeping the ball..

#85 Pieman2005, Oct 15, 2013
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I'm sorry but I'm still laughing at "the Chiefs aren't good at running the ball"

#86 Pieman2005, Oct 15, 2013
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Well, to be fair you said "Chiefs are decidedly average at running the ball." So, that's my bad. Still laughing though

#87 Pieman2005, Oct 15, 2013

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Is it even worth talking about our Texans anymore? Sigh.........................

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Actually its quite a bit more intriguing to talk about the Texans now than it was last year when they were 11 and 1. We didn´t have much to criticize the Texans until the Patriots game last year and beyond.

The Case Keenum dyamic adds quite a bit of intrigue into the mix and the unknown that comes with him.

#89 TheDr34m, Oct 16, 2013
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Keenumania!

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Kubiak loves to let people down so he'll go with Yates over Keenum

#91 tehG l i d e, Oct 16, 2013
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Texans start Yates and he performs poorly and gets benched at half time. Keenum comes in during the 2nd half and has a solid game against a Chiefs team playing a soft prevent type defense. City goes Keenum crazy during the bye, but Schaub is named the starter for Indy. City goes nuts.

#92 The Real Shady, Oct 16, 2013
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This team is an utter mess right now. I'll be very surprised if they go to an undefeated KC and pull out a win. I'll consider it a moral victory if they even keep it close.

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Pieman2005 said: ↑

So you're an apologist AND a homer?

Charles is going to run all over us lmao.

I agree Alex Smith isn't that good, but he also rarely makes mistakes..

The Chiefs are great at forcing turnovers, and the Texans are horrible at keeping the ball..
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LOL. You're taking this a little too seriously.

I *admittedly* go out of my way to find reasons the Texans might win (because someone asked for it) and suddenly I'm an apologist/homer? What part of "pump sunshine" led you to believe I'm being dead serious?

Laugh all you want, but the Chiefs running game is average. It's on par with the Falcons, Patriots and Jets. Do you consider them good at running the ball? I hope not.

The Chiefs defense forces turnovers, if you throw the ball. An important distinction.

The Texans should lose this game, but the Chiefs are quite overrated.

#94 BE4RD, Oct 16, 2013
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This team is an utter mess right now. I'll be very surprised if they go to an undefeated KC and pull out a win. I'll consider it a moral victory if they even keep it close.
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Then the press conference will be John, these kids fight hard out there everyday in practice. It's the NFL and you are going to play the good teams. The chiefs are a darn good football team. Very impressed with Newton because he improved today ( although he gave up 2 sacks in the game).

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All that could have been said about the rams... :/
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Exactly right. Add in the homefield advantage for KC, erratic QB play, rookie mistakes (turnovers/penalties), and you have a recipe for a Texans loss. That is what made the Rams game so frustrating. I've never seen such a winnable game turn into a blowout like that.

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start Keenum but just run the ball down their throats for the first half, quiet the crowd and let Keenum get comfortable

#97 Commodore, Oct 16, 2013
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How many starters do you think are going to stay on the team next year?

I think Manning, Reed, Smith(FA?), Schaub, Tate are for sure gone. Joseph, Wade Smith, mays OD are possible.

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John Mcclain on sr610 just said it looks like Keenum might get the start on Sunday

#99 Fantasma Negro, Oct 16, 2013
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John Mcclain on sr610 just said it looks like Keenum might get the start on Sunday
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Translation: Schaub will start and Keenum probably won't even dress for the game.

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