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[OFFICIAL] Michael Bloomberg for President 2020

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. AleksandarN

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    his answer(at the town hall)was awkward for sure. Do I think he is racist? But I do believe he is stubborn and defensive. Doesn’t make what he did was right or his comments at the time. But since then he has do a lot things to help out minorities.

     
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    Well so much for moderation. Israelis cannot act like Nazis, be supporters of Apartheid nor violently suppress -- only Hamas or Plestinians. The Israelis and their fellow travelers primarily in the US have made the two state solution impossible. Jews will have to accept a one state American style system eventually in which no one religion or ethnicity is privileged over another.
     
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    I added apartheid because it adds more fuel to my argument. It has nothing to do with watering down my point. My point stands that they are acting like Nazis in the ways I pointed out. So I ask: is Israel violently oppressing a minority population with ethnic/religious overtones? Is it walling them off? Is it shoving them into ghettos? Yes or no?

    Also welcome back to the discussion.
     
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    I wonder if the Nazis thought it was more complex than that... Hey do you ever stop to consider why there is support for groups like Hamas? Do you ever wonder why people are so pissed off? Yes, it's complex, but just saying it is complex ignores and perhaps, one could argue, even justifies the violent and brutal treatment of the people who suffer.

    Speaking of bias, I have to wonder why you care so much to run to the defense of the indefensible actions going on... the walling off... the ghettos... the brutality... do you deny these things to help you feel better about the world? Or more so, do you think Israel has even done anything wrong? You said it was complex so please explain such complexity. I'm all for listening.
     
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    Start a thread about Israel. Then all of us that want to talk about Bloomberg can continue. We can discuss it in a new topic.
     
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    If the Palestinians laid down there arms today there would be immediate peace and two states rather quickly. If Israel laid down their arms today the would be driven into the Mediterranean Sea.
     
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  8. KingCheetah

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    You forgot about Gal Gadot.
     
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    Why are politicians so bad at answering simple questions? With the information he’s attempting to convey, I feel like a lot of us could give a thoughtful compassionate response and detail the perceived positive against the unfortunate result. Instead he bumbles through that like a teenager at prom. Deflecting by talking about education after giving a poor answer fools no one
     
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    She is one one heck of a "Gal".;)
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    She's Wonderful.
     
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    I agree with you.. I think he has apologized, but not in the way that most people want him too..... But he has done more for minorities than any other candidate and also gives a nice plan with DETAILS on what he will do for minorities he is elected... That is more than I can say about any other candidate.

    The other thing I like about Mike is that he's not attacking his competitors, he's only going after Trump... His ads are all about what he has done, what he will do and what Trump isn't doing...

    T_Man
     
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    This is frankly a disgusting unconstitutional take by Bloomberg. Using the acts of terrorists to justify having surveillance on an entire religious community is the antithesis of constitutional rights.

    The way he says "but 3000 people DIED" as an excuse is pathetic.

    This guy has no self-awareness or at least struggles to show it. Brilliant engineer but a morally bankrupt human. He has a pretty obvious authoritarian streak in him.
     
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    Just a thought exercise... Why do you think they would be run into the sea? There were Jewish people living in Palestine before Israel was created.
     
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    I said my bit. I am waiting for your response. So you start a thread if you have something to say and feel it needs a new thread. Or just leave it and I will too. I get that the thread is off topic and agree we can start a thread if there is more to discuss from you. But I'm done for now unless you have anything to add to the discussion.
     
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    Sometimes Bloomberg is more Trump than Trump.
     
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    The oft-repeated but proven false saying. When Palestinians stopped their attacks what we saw is that their homes were taken and the settlements increased. Sadly the attacks then resumed. But we've seen what happened when Palestinians halted their attacks. It wasn't instant peace or a workable two-state solution.
     
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    Yup.... much of Israel thinks it has a religious right to all of that land. They have no real interest in a two-state solution. I mean really how can you work with people who think they are owed land because the sky god told them so in an ancient text.... how do you justify that to people who were living on those lands already and just shoved aside?
     
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    Of course he talked about stop and frisk how could he not.

    Do you think anyone actually voting in the primaries have not made up their mind on stop and frisk?

    Is this by NBC?

    So I guess we can do away with MSM narrative now.
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    Nobody ever forgets about Gal Gadot.

    How dare you!
     

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