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[Official] Joe 2020

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Jayzers_100

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    And Bernie still hasn’t learned how to broaden his support into minority communities or moderate voters who want to beat Trump. Maybe Bernie retains his base through his consistent message, but I don’t think he can cry foul if Biden surpasses him. Bernie’s idea may might be great, M4All might save us money in the long run, who really knows. We’re all speculating in reality. You need the salesman of your product to make it palatable to a broad audience. Bernie has no one to blame but himself
     
  2. HTM

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    I thought Bernie crushes it amongst Hispanics? As seen in Nevada?
     
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    I like Bernie's plan for M4A, but it won't pass as proposed even he's elected.
     
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    Yes, he has done that. He generates an enthusiastic turnout. But to run for President you have to reach everyone. Labeling himself a democratic-socialistic was a horrible political move if you ask me. This is chess, not checkers. You can win some moves by going all in on a movement, but you have to know Americans consume buzzwords like that
     
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    Maybe so but I think he has “broadened his support into minority communities” and you asserted he hadn’t.
     
  6. Jayzers_100

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    I should have said black voters specifically. Yes he does well with young voters of all backgrounds, but I think SC is a great crystal ball into Super Tuesday contests
     
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    He has certainly spent time and effort to get the Hispanic vote. Sanders has done what he can to broaden his appeal. He has also made inroads with younger black voters.

    The problem is that at the end of the day Sanders is a radical and doesn’t represent the majority of Americans or even democrats. So he has to cobble together a bunch of special interest voters and minority opinion holders. Perhaps it works (it did for Trump although it took a couple years to get mainstream Republicans on board.

    It will be interesting to see if Biden can turn this into a larger momentum shift or if it is just a bump in the road for Sanders.

    I will say this, if Biden starts rolling and gets the nomination at the convention; there will be a lot of angry Sanders voters.
     
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    I disagree. Only 10% of voters were between the ages of 18-29 in SC. Over 70% were over the age of 45. That doesnt reflect states like Texas, California and Massachusetts
     
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    Near-record turnout in South Carolina sets stage for Super Tuesday battles
    Turnout for the 2020 primary is on track to match — or even best — 2008’s record.

    By Anya van Wagtendonkanyavw@protonmail.com Mar 1, 2020, 10:32am EST

    Almost all results are in from Saturday’s South Carolina Democratic primary, and former Vice President Joe Biden has picked up his first win in the race. For South Carolina, there was another milestone: a near-record primary turnout.

    With 94 percent of precincts reporting, and the final 6 percent nearly finished with their tallies, South Carolina’s Election Commission has found 524,000 voters cast ballots in Saturday’s primary.

    That total would appear to put the state on track to nearly match — or perhaps surpass — the turnout record set during Barack Obama’s first presidential race in 2008, when 532,000 voters participated, according to pollster and political analyst John Couvillon.

    Continued here . . .
     
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    ^^^^^^ who cares about a bunch of ignorant old people? The youth movement is coming sooner or later.
     
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    Lol I wouldn’t mind making a friendly wager on this, but Joe Biden will be the 2020 nominee. Bernie can’t evolve past being the angry revolutionary
     
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    Will Joe have a plurality of delegates?
     
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    Yes, I think Joe will be more successful than Hillary against Bernie
     
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    Interesting take.
     
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    Bloomberg is going to take a lot of voters from Biden -- Bernie should be feeling really good about ST -- he's not going to lose much support to Warren (obviously).

    Early voting sounds like a disaster for Biden.
     
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    Of course that’s conditioned on others dropping out. Last time it was Hillary vs. Bernie head-to-head. It’s a crowded field but if Joe has the same opportunity, he’s a stronger candidate than her
     
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    How much?
     
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    That we can agree on
     
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    I do agree Biden is a stronger candidate than Clinton
     
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    Whoops wrong reply lol please disregard
     

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