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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

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    You have to be blind if you don't think McHale should be let go.

    He's clearly in over his head.
     
  2. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

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    The players reflect their coach. There's no way that over an entire season and postseason that these guys just happen to ignore some brilliant drawn up offensive sets and decide to go ISO every time down. They're not simply ignoring the defensive scheme they've been instructed to employ by the coaching staff. They're doing(or not doing) these things because McHale has failed to give them proper instruction on what to do(witness how inept they are out of timeouts on offense).

    And you wanna talk about players being accountable? Well here's an idea. If James Harden refuses to play defense, BENCH HIS ASS! Seriously, take him out of the game and leave him out until he realizes he will not be given playing time unless he plays hard at both ends of the floor. Obviously it's too late to do that now, but McHale had all year long to drill this concept into his players' heads and refused. Now all he can do is pass the buck to Sampson for leaving early.
     
  3. torocan

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    It's not minimizing it. Lin made a terrible decision. I think there's no debate.

    However, we can't ignore the elephant in the room which is the failure of McHale and Co. to actively coach in clutch time, or to hold the team accountable throughout the season.

    How else do you explain Harden STILL not expending effort on defense after TWO full seasons on the Roster? The lack of organized plays out of time outs? The disorganization of the defense?

    Sampson leaving hurts, no doubt. However, after Lin is gone will the OTHER problems magically fix themselves?
     
  4. Zergling

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    Sure, assuming McHale is also gone and Morey can improve the roster.
     
  5. Little Bit

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    That's why the players like McHale b/c they know they can run all over him. They are undisciplined. They're not held accountable for their bad habits.The reported rumor of them not wanting Rondo sums up who they are. They don't want any serious who will get in their faces. All of their mental mistakes and bad habits throughout the regular season have come back to bite them in their asses.
     
  6. count_dough-ku

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    That's why I hate the term "players coach". It's a euphemism for a guy who lets the players do what they want. That can work if you have veterans who know how to execute and hold themselves accountable. That's why Rudy was successful with Dream and Clyde. When he suddenly had to lead young, undisciplined players like Francis and Mobley, things got a lot tougher. Especially when the league changed its rules and started allowing zone defense which limited Rudy's ability to rely on ISO offense.

    Damn, it's like deja vu all over again.
     
  7. mr. 13 in 33

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    Possible Morey could go after Thibs for the coaching job or no?
     
  8. pugsly8422

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    Tell McHale that if we fire him we're going to bring in Kurt Rambis. That ought to light a fire under his ass.
     
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  9. Gertso

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    I thought they were grooming Chris Finch. Is that still a thing?
     
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    Could you imagine?

    I salivate at the thought of Thibs instructing this defense.

    Come on back Thibs. You've squeezed all you can out of Chicago. You aren't contending anymore. Houston is ready for you to extract every last bit of potential from this team.
     
  12. jayhow92

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    Any chance Vogel is available after this horrendous choke?
     
  13. dookiester

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    but vogel is currently presiding an even bigger choke job :confused::confused::confused:
     
  14. cheke64

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    I remember watchin the Steve Francis Era and seeing Thibs putting work sweating before the game
     
  15. saleem

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    Most of the blame is obviously on the players, but McHale hasn't done well either. We need better players, and a better coach too.
     
  16. count_dough-ku

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    Thibodeau might be the perfect candidate. I just don't know if he'll be available. Maybe if the Wizards pull off the upset, but would Chicago really be that stupid to let him go?
     
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    I agree with what Kenny was saying on Inside the NBA last night. If a team is getting blown out that is mostly on the players whether they have the talent to compete with the opposing team or are just not putting the effort. Kenny said when teams lose close games between 1-7 points consistently, that can all be fixed with a good coaching. As stupid a play that was by Jeremy, McHale can call a timeout too, can't he, or did the rule change? The whole sequence played out right in front of him and the bench. What a jackass.
     
  18. count_dough-ku

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    I'm pretty sure everyone can call a timeout in that situation. The other players can as can the coach. For McHale to allow Lin to dribble around the way he did is just as much on him as it is on the player.
     
  19. khyberjones

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    I agree with you, but I also know that Jeremy is usually very poised in late game situations and comfortable in those moments so even if the coach is less than stellar he is capable of making good decisions in spite of him.
     
  20. FTW Rockets FTW

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    This is not true this playoffs. Jeremy has choked big time in late game situations so calling him "very poised" is a huge stretch.

    - Unnecessarily Fouls when they were only 3 up with about 30 seconds to go.
    - Blows a fast break lay up when the best thing to do would be to run some clock
    - Does not call timeout even after clear instructions rsulting in a subsequent loss.
     

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