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[Official] Astros Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. awc713

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  2. Joe Joe

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    Should have taken the qualifying offer.
     
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    I sure hope Boras gets roasted on that one. His “go for the throat” mentality almost certainly cost his client a lot of money. He’s a super agent but he has had several clients the last few years end up getting hugely disappointed.
     
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    Well, hell, that's all I need to know.

    Personally I think they're more of an 11.4, but agree to disagree.
     
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    They are most certainly am 11.8 You guys are ridiculous believing that trash.
     
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    I didn't know the Chronicle was still in business
     
  7. Joe Joe

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    Lucroy signs with As.
     
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    Karma for all the GM's he burned. The game changed and he didnt evolve with the CBA
     
  9. Mr.Pringles

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    Of all the super elite teams really only the Astros and Yankees made significant upgrades to taking a step forward.

    The Red Sox, Indians and Cubs made parallel moves adding a quality vet name to replace another quality vet. Nats basically stood pat. Dodgers pursuit of everyone was a disaster. No Darvish, no #2 starter, lost almost all of their elite set up men.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    He still has done well with upper end free agents. His waiting tactic doesn't work for lesser free agents that received a QO, and he really misjudged how teams would view Moustakas.
     
  11. Snake Diggit

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    Insane for Lucroy to only get $6.5M for 1 year. Stassi better be good.
     
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    Happened to him years ago with Stephen Drew and Kendrys Morales. He had them go into the season without a deal. Lost a lot of money, and their careers fell off.
     
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    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    You seem to be making an assumption he would have come here for something close to that number. I'm guessing he was willing to take a prove-it deal somewhere where he is guaranteed 500+ ABs and the lion's share of C starts.
     
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    Gattis and Beltran had over 800 PA between them last year. Houston could easily have promised Lucroy 400 PA. Not to mention they could have sold Lucroy on potential for a ring and potential for an extension. I actually think the reason Houston didn’t sign Lucroy was a combination of their faith in Stassi, availability of Realmuto, and fear that Lucroy would be bad for clubhouse chemistry.
     
  16. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Agree with 400 PA. I think that's a significant distance from 500 AB, which I don't think they could guarantee him. Given his down year and his age, I really think he wanted to rebuild his status if he took a 1 year deal. I could be wrong. But I don't think we can look back and say with any degree of certainty that he was available to Houston at the same price he signed for.
     
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    Perfect future contract for FA pitchers... hopefully.
     
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    Hmmm... This guy covers Alabama football and now the Astros? I need to have a drink with him!
     
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    I think that means Keuchel will cost 4 or 5 years around 27 million per year if he can stay healthy. If he goes Cy Young again then maybe 30 million per season.

    He will be a year younger when he hits the market and loss in velocity isn't a concern for Keuchel like it for Arrieta.
     

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