Obama's approval rating is at its highest point in years

Seriously? The excursion in Iraq was wrapping up, regardless of what President was elected. It wasn't a war, it was an occupation. Lets not pretend this was akin to the Civil War or WWI or WWII. It debatable to say modern Chicago is more unsafe than Iraq.

Obama came into a recession, not a depression. You would need to be Trump to **** up a recovery like that.

Im not suggesting Obama was terrible, but lets not pretend he was a wonder child.

 

and what terrorist would that be? Not ISIS....Hezbollah? I doubt Iran is going to spend the 1.7 Billion they have been waiting on for 37 years on a Terror group. They are going to use it for their internal needs.


Plus....it was IRAN's money.

 

UM.....there were many economist that said the US was going to be in a depression by late Spring/Summer when Obama took office. The actions the administration took in the first 6 months prevented that (including the Auto Bailout).

 

and...they don't call it the "Great Recession" for no reason.

 

This is just complete horsesh!t.

 

We should have just spent that $4 trillion in Chicago. Heyoooo...

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9f855e-59a8-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html

In fact, the money was earmarked to settle a decades-old Iranian claim on the money, plus $1.3 billion in interest.

The funds were deposited by Iran before the 1979 revolution to buy U.S. military equipment, and they were frozen under President Jimmy Carter after Americans were taken hostage at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Iran has been trying to recover the money ever since, at one point contending that it was owed $10 billion or more with accrued interest.

State Department spokesman Mark Toner said Wednesday that three separate teams of negotiators were assembled to conduct talks with Iran on the nuclear deal, the prisoner swap and the financial settlement. That move to silo the teams allowed the administration to argue that the deals were not linked and that the $1.7 billion saved taxpayers’ money because the United States most likely would have paid more if the matter had gone to arbitration.

There is a long history of Iran getting back part of its frozen assets after Americans are released. As part of an agreement that led to the 52 remaining embassy hostages being freed in 1981, Iran received $3 billion of its $12 billion in frozen assets. The rest was used to repay American creditors or put into escrow to cover judgments against Iran.

 

Trumpers don't care about facts. They believe everything they see on trash websites like youngcons, as well as anything on twitter.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those numbers are consistent with this being a status quo election <a href="https://t.co/PYjOiVV75T">https://t.co/PYjOiVV75T</a></p>&mdash; Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) <a href="https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/762153110416584704">August 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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As reflected in the latest WaPo poll, 58% of voters prefer someone with experience with how the political system works, while 39% prefer someone from outside the political establishment. This isn't just during this one survey, either, "experience" has been preferred by a similar margin during the last 7 WaPo surveys going back to October 2015.

So, with all the talks about angry frustrated voters who are seeing the downfall of America, with all these crowds showing up for Bernie and Trump, I wonder what % of people are really that angry and blaming Washington for all their troubles. People like Obama well enough and they want a candidate with experience. As Michael Cohen said in the tweet posted above, this is looking more like a "status quo" election. No, people are not thrilled with how things are, but almost 60% of them think that there is a way out without turning to an Washington outsider.


If anything, Clinton is consistently under-performing the % of voters who prefer an "experienced" candidate. Some establishment Democrat with less baggage (Biden, maybe Kaine at the top of the ticket, Obama in an alternate universe running for a 3rd term) may well have been blowing Trump out even worse now.

Trump has been attacking Clinton by tying him to Obama of late. How wise a tactic is it? I mean, voters like Obama more than Clinton.

 

Imagine what he could have done without the record breaking filibusters

 

Obama's press secretary literally admitted it today

https://twitter.com/YoungDems4Trump/status/761787435646799873

 

Geez this.

Dealt with Great Recession,Iraq, Bin Laden, Universal Health Care, Auto Industry...

 

I honestly don't care that Space Ghost holds the stupid opinions that he does, but to continually deny being a neocon...

 

He admitted to what? The fact that money can be transferred from one entity to another?

 

He admitted he has no idea how Iran spends their own money? I guess you're right. And? Do you know how we got to this place? It's like you have no idea what happened previously.

So the US, in lieu of a multi billion dollar judgement in court, announced months ago that it was giving Iran its own money back and then when Iran received it they decided to release prisoners, err hostages, and call it a ransom despite the fact they were going to get the money anyway? Now you want to agree with Iran that it's ransom because... Obama?

Do you not understand the incentive for Iran to release these people, not only for propaganda purposes but for future releases of their own money? Do you not see that? I don't understand how you can rightfully claim Iran is a vile, sponsor of terrorism and then not believe they would lie about a ransom. Kind of like not believing a killer would lie.

 

Of course it is. He comes after Bush and before Trump or Hillary. These are 3 of the least liked American politicians ever.

He has been busy in private rooms selling TPP to rich businessmen despite the American public not being on his side, despite the American public nominating 2 highly disliked candidates who both claim to oppose the TPP.

Why can't we be proud of Obama's accomplishments without worshipping him?

 

I think the impeachment complicated things for Gore and his campaign staff, every journalist of either side would have figured out how to associate him with it, ask him what he knew, when he knew it or spin him as being naive. Also consider that Bush was enough of an unknown quantity or presumed underdog that he couldn't get a running mate.

 

In a alternate universe. With everything being the same, I would be Extremely curious to see how everything would have went down for Al Gore if 9/11 happened while he was president.

People can assume what would have all day. I really would curious though.

 

Maybe a misunderstanding here. In addition to the above, what other accomplishments could have been added to the list if it was not for filibusters was what I meant