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New Study Finds Voter ID Laws Burdensome

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    This is really sad and just makes you think that the Republicans involved in this don't care for democracy at all. It's kinda scary that people are willing to subvert democracy to help win a few elections in this country.

    http://electoral-vote.com/

     
  2. Space Ghost

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    Im sure the story is twisted and skewed and a small or single sample. Either way, the problem isn't voter ID laws.

    I can't think of anyone who wouldn't support voter ID except those who it disadvantages.
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    You're right, the problem is not voter ID laws.
    The problem is the availability of voter IDs.
    Hopefully the situation in that article is an isolated one...
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Fact is that voter fraud isn't a problem in the u.s. But if you want to win elections you just make it harder to get voter ID's so that poor people have to travel far, miss a work day, and get expensive documents just so they can vote.

    I think it's a pretty sick way to win an election. It's nice to know that you will simply assume that the story is a lie rather than investigate and find out more yourself. Talk about having the sheepskin pulled over one's eyes.
     
  5. trueroxfan

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    Dead People Do Vote

    http://www.wentworth.senate.state.tx.us/pr12/p072712a.htm

     
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    My question is, were the 239 deceased at the time the ballot was cast? Or did they die afterwords. It doesn't clarify, so it may not be fraud at all... I do believe that people are making a way bigger deal about getting a picture...It is not that difficult.
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    Why on earth would anyone NOT want to protect the integrity of the voting process? We know that there was voting fraud in the 2008 election. That is a fact. McCain decided that it was in the best interest of the nation not to pursue it -- but he could have and he considered it. The Democrats are against protecting the integrity of the process either because 1) They want to abuse the process or 2) They think so little of their voting base that they assume they can't come up with ID. Either way, it's pathetic. The American voting public overwhelmingly is in favor of Voter ID laws. Voter fraud disenfranchises honest voters, by rendering their votes meaningless. That's a civil rights violation right there.

    There is no good argument why these laws shouldn't be in place in every single voting location.
     
  8. thadeus

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    The electoral college also makes many votes meaningless.
     
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    We should just have national ID law like most other countries.
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    Not to mention gerrymandered legislative districts.
     
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    We definitely should get rid of this, but it will never happen.
     
  12. El_Conquistador

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    No, actually it does not make votes meaningless. Your vote counts in this process to determine the winner of the state. The flaw in your thinking is that you assume that others will vote a certain way, which of course is not guaranteed.
     
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    Voter fraud is a republican boogieman

    There is no such thing
     
  14. rockbox

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    I have no problem with voter id as long as everyone can get one free of charge at a convenient location like the post office.
     
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    The real story in 2012 is how the myth of voter fraud has been advanced by Republicans to justify new voting restrictions in more than a dozen states, which could disenfranchise up to 5 million voters on Election Day, according to the Brennan Center for Justice.
     
  16. Anticope

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    Heck yeah, the Republicans might even win California this year! Afterall, There's no guarantees!
     
  17. CrazyDave

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    not sure if serious.
     
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    I have no idea what you're talking about here.

    I'm saying that the electoral college results in every vote for a candidate other than the statewide winner having no real impact. That doesn't make any sense at all when we're talking about national elections for the federal government.
     
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    Absolutely they should be free if you're going to require them. If not, they're the same thing as a poll tax.
     

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