Mr trump Tells ABC News "It’s not an interference. They have information. I think I’d take it."

Dobby. You are not a bad guy so I don't want to argue this, but really I just didn't see my question as being hard to answer but apparently it was. I don't care enough to push for an answer to a civil inquiry after being treated with hostility and instead see a post that prevaricates about with nonesense.

 

I responded to you in your whole thread you made. But I will say it is quite lazy of you to just copy and paste something that explains your feelings and doesn't even answer the question I asked you. You're attacking me for no reason other than just asking you for an answer and making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. You are quite the drama queen these days. I really don't have much else to say to you so I am done. Call me names or misrepresent me in order to feel like you won, but you really need to step back and ask yourself if all of this attitude is needed when someone just asked for you opinion. I mean, I truly just wanted to hear your take on it bro and you're making this huge deal out of it. Last time I ask you for your opinion.

 

I don't think you are debating in good faith.

Noticed the same pattern with my right wing friends i served with when I challenge them on obviously false unvetted memes they constantly share daily. When one side isn't sincere and one side genuinely cares you get posts that look exactly like yours where you tell people why they care so much.

You saw some of this with Bush Jr. Initial massive support by the right wing but as time moves forward it was clear he was a bad president, instead of acknowledging that they were mistaken in their support of him, they resort to sincere trolling tactics and telling people they care too much when they get a massive information dump on them. Now hardly anyone will readily admit they ever supported Bush Jr. Same thing will happen to Trump. Eventually most of his supporters will just claim they were trolling online and never actually sincerely supported him.

 

I'd like for you to prove it since all you do is come at people who don't tow the far left line. I think you are a rude person and you can't stand not to jump in and be a jerk when given a chance. And I'm not right wing. Of course, radical leftists/progressives like you are aggressively pushing people like me away from the DNC and this is why the modern day "liberals" are doomed. You have bad attitudes, closed-minds, and you display an authoritarian attitude whenever someone doesn't fall in line with the agenda.

Also it is funny you mention Bush Jr. Actually, a lot of so called "liberals" are warmed up to him just because he does his stupid idiot dance on TV a few times on daytime spots and gives Michelle Obama a candy and comes out against Trump. When you are aligned with Bush Jr on something, that should key you into where you stand (you in general, not you specifically).

 

This not about touting the left party line. I don't say the same thing about cml, commadore etc because they explicitly proudly admit they are Trump supporters and will always admit to that and not cower behind "oh I think you are just to harsh on little poor Donny thus I'll defend 99% of his actions here and then claim im not a supporter of his".

4 years in right wing bubble, I've met hundreds of your types.

Your sole basis of calling me a radical is having a grudge with you. Self centered like Donny. Name a single radical position I hold policy wise. You aren't a policy person. You are a "what is the latest social media outrage machine producing" type poster. We hardly ever have discussions on economic policy or foreign policy.

I understand the shtick you are playing. It ain't sincere. No one dedicated this amount of time defending someone without being a cultish level supporter of his. I can admit I was a supporter of Obama and spent no where near the time defending him as you defend Donny on this message board. Just some perspective for you to consider. Some self-awareness goes a long way.

 

I'm not afraid to give my opinion. If I was a Trump supporter I would own it. I am not decided at this point. I didn't vote for him in the last election and I don't know if I can this time around. If he starts a war or if I think he didn't live up to his past promises, I likely won't vote for him in 2020.

I don't know why it's so damn hard for you to accept that not everyone thinks like you do and not everyone fits into a box you have created to sort people. I think that you should try to be a bit open-minded, something most liberals claim to be but rarely practice these days.

People who have different opinions are not something you need to hate, fear, or attack. True liberals are completely OK with this and don't seem to get their bee in a bonnet about what someone labels themselves. I think I know my own views better than you actually and you'd do well to actually listen for once instead of impose your beliefs on others.

I do argue with people here about Trump though, and I do side with him sometimes. That doesn't mean I blindly support the man. I have many things I don't like about him, but honestly, they just usually aren't the same reasons most people here dislike him.

 

I added more to my post when you were typing your reply, sorry:
I understand the shtick you are playing. It ain't sincere. No one dedicates this amount of time defending someone without being a cultish level supporter of his. I can admit I was a supporter of Obama and spent no where near the time defending him as you defend Donny on this message board. Just some perspective for you to consider. Some self-awareness goes a long way.

You incessantly defend Donal at every turn here. You dedicate hours of your time defending him. You support him. Deal with it. Deal with having some sort of draw towards having a adult child manage the world's largest bureaucracy.

And now you resort to the insincere "free speech" narrative. So predictable. Me calling you out on your cult like worship of Trump doesn't imply some type of totalitarian limits on ideas on my part.

 

You're not an actual liberal and you're closed-minded. You deal with that.

I'm done with you.

 

Another case of projection I guess as I really don't care if I'm percieved as a liberal. It's not a virtue in my life to be called a "liberal". I have my beliefs. Currently my beliefs compel me to call you out on your insincerity that you aren't a Trump supporter when you are a part of his cult.

 

Lets be honest with ourselves . . . .there is a good 1/3rd of this country that would instantly become Russian
it if meant they would not have to deal with any minorities and women would have to accept their 1950s roles in life

That is the long and short of it all.
They are not patriotic. . . .
Their main beef with socialism and communisim is that someone who ain't THEM might benefit from it.
They believe they are superior and should hold superior positions based on nothing but the circumstances of their birth
and Donald Trump is exactly who they would be if they had money . . . .

Rocket River

 

I've actually literally witnessed this with Marine grunts i served with of all people.

I've literally seen justification for Putin's regime being cozy with Trump's campaign and business life for decades now with "well at least they believe in Judeo-Christian values and are enemies of Islamic terrorists".

I agree. Their pride isn't rooted in American values but rather White Judeo-Christian culture. Hence why they are fans of Poland, Russia, Italy etc... Countries that are actively touting the same "others that don't stem from Caucasian judeo Christian culture are the problem".

 

Who said trump base is against globalization

 

Not only do they love globalism, but they love socialism in the their correct context. They love it under a ethno-white state like Poland.