Cuttino should play the point until Francis comes back, maybe he would be less selfish. He is our best guard and our best player until Francis comes back. I will never say he is better than Francis again, I thought he was but I was wrong. In Cuttino's defense. He did have Kobe guarding him last night. No one else could make the shots he did in the 4th quarter. Walt cost us the game by not forcing a foul on the Kobe block drive.
My thoughts exactly. Cuttino has been inconsisten for the past two games, but other than that, he has kept the Rockets in most games. I know it's frustrating to see the Rockets lose, but don't blame the Cat for it. I feel that he's playing just how he's always played. Plus, I'm the biggest Mobley fan alive. Just keep hope...everything will work out. Cod
I think that Cuttino just is trying WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY to try and carry this team. Unfortunately it seems like the only way he THINKS he can carry this team is by jacking up shots and TRYING to score as many points as he can. Somebody needs to smack him upside his head and let him know that if he concentrated a lil more on getting others involved the team would be better off
Why is it when Cuttino goes OUT Of the game we always make a run? Huh? Because the players start passing the ball. When Cat went out in the 2nd quarter last night, we made a run to get within 2 at the half. Face it, Cat ain't all that ! DaDakota
DaDakota, Very well stated...... Cat has a lot of talent.. But at this point in his career he is not a TEAM player... But, let's go deeper than that. It is Rudy's job to recognize his TEAM's weekness. So if we can all see the problem I hope and trust that Rudy can see the same problem... Because a good Coach would sit his ( | ) on the bench... I betcha he would learn how to play TEAM ball then.
We are losing because of Moochie not Cat. Cats job is not to pass but to shoot. Moochie is suppose to pass the ball. He isn't getting people involved... Put Cat at the point and then call him a ball hog if he doesn't involve others. Until then he should shoot the ball. Last night against Lakers wasn't a good example because he wasn't shooting the ball real well and we came back in the second quarter mostly because Mooch was out of the game too.
WoodlandsBoy, I understand that Cat is the Shooting Guard by Definition... But this does not mean SHOOT the ball every time you touch it.... It doesn't work that way.... With any team, any League at any time.
Cat is third on the team in APG, right behind the two guys that have started at point guard. Most teams have the point guard as the assist leader. The Mobley haters just don't want to recognize that he makes good passes. Sometimes your center just misses point blank layups and dunks. Also, Kobe was at the basket all night when Mobes sat down. Oscar escorted him right to the hoop on more than one occasion. He is the only guard on the team who stops penetration. Look at Bryants FG%, way below average. I'll take the guy who stops dribble penetration, makes good passes, leads the team in 3pt% and wants the ball in crunch time. You haters can have Moochie "dribble for 23 1/2 seconds and throw up a prayer" Norris. Oh, and by the way, Mobley is playing through two sprained ankles, which limits his movement and thus his number one offensive weapon.
Why is it he can only play with Steve? If this is a team, he should be able to play with whomever is on the court. Thats another excuse that is circuling. Many times players has had to play without their buddy and succeed. Webber and Williams were buddies and so were him and Spreewell. Play the game share the ball and try to win the game. The zone has really crippled the entire teams effectiveness because of the standard offense. Its vital that he shows a willingness to play within the team concept like everyone else. Every team has injuries, but you just have to adjust and move on. Cat has to be a leader not only in shots , but he needs to show he can divert to the hot man and help with a floor game. I love his confidence, but sometimes that hinders his ability to play a total team game. Kobe really showed him why he's an upper tier player and he's below that. Its not like Kobe had a great shooting game, but he basically shut Mobley down ,and got the great looks at the basket. When he was struggling or wasn't scoring , but Fisher and the other guys were hitting, he didn't care. This is the same maturity that cat must show.
Cat will never be as good as he thinks he is. I believe, however, that it's mainly Rudy's fault. Rudy has been blowing Cuttino's head up for so long that he has created a monster. Cuttino thinks he's up there with the elite players in the league, when in actuality, he's not even close. On a contending team, Cuttino should not be your starting two guard. He could provide a good spark off the bench, but he shouldn't be a key starting player. And I agree with many on this board that Cuttino is not bright when it comes to basketball, and I don't believe he will ever be. I'm sorry, but the Rockets will never get anywhere with Cuttino being the starting two, he's just not that good.
Pued's making the most sense of anyone in this thread. Listen to the man. And if Cat is hurting us right now, them Moochie is absolutely killing us.
I think we should find a team that has a lot of front court players that needs a good two guard and try to make a trade. We need a front court player that is at least a 14ppg scorer right now, preferably a center. I KNOW we could get someone better than Cato in exchange for Mobley. Even after Mo T gets back, we could have a better front line with him and Eddie Griffin plus someone like Marc Jackson, maybe. I'll bet Golden State would do that deal in a heartbeat, straight up Jackson for Mobley. That would be a sweet deal, and I'd do it in a heartbeat. Then, move Torres to the starting spot (or possibly Terence Morris). Steve would have complete control over the team as THE number 1 option, and Griffin could continue to get more minutes. As far as Cato, we'll just have to let him ride the pine and collect his checks.
Now we are just realizing that Mobley is a good role player, not a star. And that is okay. He does his job well when Steve is healthy. Francis is the only star the Rockets have, until Griffin comes around.
Oh yeah, and while we're at it, that Moochie Norris "dribble-dribble" offense has GOT to go. It is sickening watching that guy dribble around in circles while everyone stands around. But, I digress...
This kind of explains your recent Hakeem thread. I feel bad for responding in that thread now...probably should've just ignored it.
Excuse me? What kind of lame-ass response is that? Golden State is completely over-flowing with big men and would love to get a quick, veteran 2 to come off the bench or start in a role-player position. Let's see, the Rockets were salivating over Jackson all summer, signed him to a deal in fact, only to have Golden State pull out. Our weakest position is center right now. Mobley is a great "role player" as we are all finding out, who CAN shoot but is a liability in a lot of situations. Guards are a dime a dozen in this league. And quick guards are not even that "hot" a commodity. If you can get a center that is capable of averaging 10+ a night (as Jackson did in his rookie year -- 11.5 points, 6.5 boards in 25 minutes), you DO that deal. That's why the Rockets were going to sign him in the first place. I guess that explains your idiotic response to my Hakeem post. You're right, maybe you shouldn't have responded. And, PLEASE, don't cite Jackson's numbers this year. The dude is royally PISSED to be in Golden State in the first place. Bring him here and watch him produce. Shoot, he's a MAJOR upgrade over both Willis AND Cato. Can you argue with that, wonder boy Freak?
The guy is a talented stud who must fockass on the rim and the defenders. Many players are like that. They have a huge obstacle in their way to stardom, especially when undersized. That obstacle is getting the damn defenses off their ass. Right now, Mobley has no clue how to do this. He needs the defense to concentrate on other players as well as him. The moment he learns to maintain his fockass on the rim, while gaining reflex ability to find the open man...he is a major stud. My worry is that Mobley's attempt to see the court and other players is hindering is fockass on the rim. He has got to find that sweet spot where he can do both. It is a travesty to call him a selfish ball-hog when we are reading quote after quote of his that says he knows he is making mistakes and needs to improve. I completely, totally, utterly, 100% disagree with this stupid, utterly hating, ****ing moronic statement. First, we are not *all* finding this out. That is an insult to our ability to have opinions different that yours. Second, the *only* reason anyone says this is because they have problems with Mobley in the first place. Third, one-on-one . . . guards and small forwards only . . . Mobley is top 10 in playground. No one can stop his penetration one on one, and he can stop theirs enough to win ALL contests. That is called TALENT!! Every star guard in the league knows that Mobley can school them on sheer speed. In my opinion, speed trumps height. Dream proved that against Robinson, and Iverson continues to prove it to everyone. Fourth, all coaches in the NBA know that as well, and that is why their defenses are designed to stop Mobley and not Torres or Kenny. Fifth, if Mobley hatas will for one second recognize that he is a speed-demon talent with a sweet, soft stroke, we can then talk about how bad he can be on decisions. We can reach agreement, if you'd just stop hating. Sixth, this bbs largely is blind to what Hydra said about Mobes defense. Seven, I really believe Mobley hatas do not, and have never, played hour after hour of 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 basketball....and further, they are jealous of those who can do that, so they use "team ball," Princeton precision, smart pass, pass, pass, for no reason other than you are afraid to shoot, basketball theories to cover up the fact they can't score. Eighth, that is all for now. Mobley Lovers ROCK! No apologies necessary. The dude has unbelievable talent! Like a raw diamond in the rough.
Yes... I do have a problem with any individual that does not play Team ball.. Not just Mobley... Dominque Wilkins ato name 1. This one I give you credit for he is a top 10 playground Player ... Only problem is Playgroud "which requires no discipline will not make it in the NBA". Again the game is not about you going mono y mono with someone... It's about Team Work and TEAM DEFENSE You are correct all coaches do know this.... But that is not the only reason that they play a zone on him... It's also because he does not recognize the Defense and he will shoot the ball no matter what Crispee... You sound like a Parent who refuses to believe his child is Bad.... "My son wouldn't do that.." 1.. I don't Hate Mobley.... I Hate his Game 2.. Yes the Man has Talent 3.. If he keeps playing the way he does, I will continue to Hate his Game. OK I hear what you are saying about his Defense... But, are you hearing what we are saying about his selfish style of play... He is not helping this team... He is only helping his Stats.. There you go Assuming and all you are doing is breaking that word down to it's finer point... See the problem is no one knows no one on this board ...... All I will say is that I have had my fair share of 1 on 1, 2 on 2, 3on 3 and 5 on 5 games... And not just at a PARK.. Mobley needs to grow up and understand that 1 man cannot and will not ever win a championship by themselves... All the Great ones have tried and failed.... Jordan, Wilt..... Just to name a couple... You are correct again.... That is all for now.
What T_man Said !!! Look the problem is that Mobley has not grown, he says he knows he is making mistakes, yet he is making the exact mistakes today that he made 4 years ago, he has not grown one IOTA. He can score one on one, but he does not play one on one, it is one on 5, and the rest of the team stands around and watches, because they know he is not going to pass. Mobley is talented, you bet your butt, but he is not as good as you think he is, and probably not as bad as I think he is. DaDakota
If Mobley is so fast, and has such a quick first step, why doesn't he use it? All he does is jack up fadeaways and three-pointers. He doesn't use his talent as he should, and that is what separates him from the stars.
