Drew Brees and Joey Harrington like Carr have no future in the NFL*. * except after the team that drafted them lets them go.
Dude got 97 fantasy points........and my opponent played him. We are (or were) tied for 1st place. Oh well, at least I can take comfort in the fact that he did it against the Crackboys.
You are right they didn't trade Brees. But the surely could have traded Rivers and built around Brees if they thought the latter was going to be the better NFL player. I am not dissing Brees. But no I don't think he is on the level of the three I mentioned (Brady, Peyton, McNabb). He has more limitations than the top of the top, and I think when NO gets in the playoffs and faces a top defense they will be exposed. I also think it is a little bit of the case of right player right team right time for his 4000+ season. More like the Rams Greatest Show on earth QBs who just had to utilize lots of weapons than the QB being the engine that runs it all and smooths over other weaknesses.
But Brees was also coming off a shoulder injury, and trading players in the NFL has all sorts of bad salary cap implications (which I don't really understand). The easier route was to simply go with Rivers. I think that's certainly possible. But wasn't Dallas one of the top defenses in the NFC going into yesterday (I could be wrong, but that's what I remember)? That said, Brees also has the advantage of always having worked with pro-bowl running backs (LT, Deuce) and some great receivers (Horn & Colston and now Bush, Gates)
I pointed this out at the beginning of the season and got flamed by the Carr homers - funny how it suddenly makes sense now . .
No QB would be doing any better behind this horrible line. If you wanna do the could of would of should of game then we could of rebuilt the line with Da Brick instead of Mario and either Winston Justice or Marcus McNeil instead of Ryans then in the third round Spencer and we wouldnt be having this conversation. Im no big Carr fan (wanted Peppers) but dude should get a chance to play behind a half way decent line before he is treated like a peice of trash. Some of you are just not being fair or realistic.
The Jets got D'Brick AND Mangold, best center to come out of the draft in awhile. They did what the Texans should have done.
for the record, a bit of the discussion during the season went on here (trade carr thread) : http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=2533867#post2533867 other bits were placed in the offseason threads
Carrying Brees and Williams salary would be heavy, add in Carr, unreal. Also, the Texans don't have the Oline or weapons to utilize Brees. AJ is the only above average skill player out there, too easy to take out. Finally, I would not build a young team around Brees instead of VY, VY is 4+ years younger and Brees has had some injury history. At the time I questioned NO signing Brees instead of building around one of the great young QBs prospects, and in particular VY. But I underestimated how many solid pieces they had and how totally inept Brooks and Haslett(?) were at using them. On the offensive side NO just needed a ring leader and Brees, Bush, and with (the miracle pick) Colston it has all worked out great. Still not sure about the defense, but against most teams with that offense it is enough. Major, as for the Boys defense, yes they have been good overall. But the safety coverage skills have been a major weakness for 2+ years and Sean Payton (last year's Dallas OC) just burned them over and over and over. Dallas whole team, player through every staff member, got roasted. I do believe it will be a different story if they play again.
garthomps - it's funny that you would use my quotes, because in that thread i was arguing against carr big time. saying i was tired of the excuses and that it was time to move on. i've wanted the guy gone/benched/exiled to siberia for a very long time now. i don't believe there's ever been a houston athlete i've liked less than david carr. but that, alone, doesn't solve the texans problem. that's what i was saying. i'm still saying that. would they improve? maybe. maybe a bit. but they're not gonna be a force by simply replacing their QB, and that's it.
