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Manhattan District Attorney intensifies investigation of Donald Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by edwardc, Dec 12, 2020.

  1. edwardc

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    just take your time, wait, and prepare

    then blitz the hell out of these magafkers come inauguration day



     
  3. Andre0087

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    You still have to find 12 people that would convict and I'm not sure if that's even possible.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You could stick in one of the other billionn threads on the NY investigation

    There aren't even charges. All this us doing is solidfying his leadership of the GOP is at it appears to be witch hunt at this point
     
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    Important to note that NY State crimes are likely to be directed towards the Trump org and it’s likely to be financial crimes that bankrupt Trump from a legitimate business perspective but do not require jail time. The FBI would likely be handling an investigation that involves the more serious crimes and pass along prosecution to SDNY.

    The big one I think will be the situation that SDNY has been investigating for years involving Turkish banks which cover a slew of Trump associate potential crimes such as Mike Flynn’s failed coup in Turkey. Trump not being involved is about likely as Tillman not being involved in pushing the Rockets to not pay luxury tax.

    Still I think Vance’s prosecution will be important. Trumps “organization” has never really been a legit business since the 90’s. No banks would loan to him so he had to get funded through Russians and other foreign mob like entities. That needs to be exposed more than anything which I think this will do.
     
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    In Manhattan?

    well first he will need to testify under oath he might just strike a plea bargain

    and if he does testify under oath he will commit perjury for sure

    and he will be exposed as the bankrupt con man he truky is
     
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    Pretty hard to bypass investigations and go directly to charges. That would indeed be a real witch hunt.
     
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    People don't even know what they're investigating. Investigations do have targets right?
     
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    You don't, but people do.

    And now you know.

    [NPR] Once Out Of Office, Trump Faces Significant Legal Jeopardy

    Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. has an active criminal investigation into Trump and his businesses. The exact contours of the probe are not clear, but court papers suggest he's investigating possible insurance or financial fraud.

    "That looks like it's the most likely place where he could have some criminal liability around taxes, for example," Wehle said.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    They do have targets but aren’t always public.

    Plenty of investigations remain private until a charge is ready.

    This one is public though that doesn’t mean we know exactly what all is being investigated. Court filings from the AG said it’s looking into possible financial crimes. Details of course remain private.
     
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    And therefore it looks like a witch hunt. This isn't a new story. So at this point it appears to be aimless searching
     
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    Given that publicly, Trump busn dealings are reported to have possible financial crimes, it looks like an investigation into those reports.

    Maybe nothing comes out of it but it’s didn’t just happen out of thin air. His own lawyers said trump inflate and deflate values of the same property for tax and loan reasons. That’s fraud if so. And there is the reporting of paying his own daughter and writing that off. That’s look like fraud as well. So on. While we don’t know what they are all investigating, there is enough public knowledge to see why they are investigating.

    A witch hunt would be an investigation based on no credible initial reasons of potential crimes. That’s not the case here.
     
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    You cannot make one claim of an actual criminal allegation. Go ahead. That's my point. Its been going on a year

    Another example. Trump just can't walk in a bank and claim values on properties like this. A regular home owner cant let alone million dollar real estate developers

    The values are backed by appraisals
     
  14. Dubious

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    Maybe your incredulity will stop the investigations,
     
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    They are investigating Racketeering & Tax Fraud. Catch-up. There is pretty public evidence for both going on as been reported in the press throughout the last 4 years
     
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    What racketeering?
     
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    this is as stupid as

    ur claim that Ivanka was a consultant even tho she was an officer of the Trump Co, and was on salary​
     
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    That went no where
    So i was right ass hole.

    Again tge issue in consulting vs employment is to protect the employee. Ivanka is fine being a consultant.
     
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    rack·et·eer·ing
    /ˌrakəˈtiriNG/
    Learn to pronounce

    noun
    1. dishonest and fraudulent business dealings.
      "racketeering ensnared the economy"
     
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    In the October 2018 complaint, the Trumps were accused of misleading victims into becoming salespeople for ACN, a multi-level marketing company that charged $499 for a chance to sell videophones and other goods.

    Beyond Russia, Michael Cohen’s testimony last week before the House Oversight Committee pointed to the possibility of wide-ranging criminality within the Trump Organization before, during and after the 2016 presidential campaign, including election finance violations, bank fraud, charity fraud, tax fraud, insurance fraud, obstruction of justice and suborning perjury.

    Two separate New York State fraud investigations into President Trump and his businesses, one criminal and one civil, have expanded to include tax write-offs on millions of dollars in consulting fees, some of which appear to have gone to Ivanka Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

    Never-Before-Seen Trump Tax Documents Show Major Inconsistencies
    The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

    by Heather Vogell

    Oct. 16, 2019, 4 a.m. EDT
     
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