1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. kpdark

    kpdark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2021
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    4,482
  2. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,730
    Likes Received:
    36,654
    Are people going to pick up on Green's handles tightening immensely? He always had creativity with his handle but it was always loose. When is the last time he got stripped from a loose handle? And he gets constantly full court presses to. His handle looks smooth and confident now.

    His handle has improved to a level where he can be a full time primary ball handler for long stretches and even entire games now.

    Ime is confident enough in Green's handles now where he can be the primary ball handler when FVV is on the bench.
     
    #2062 fchowd0311, Mar 25, 2024
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2024
    Arnel, Amel, Bo6 and 10 others like this.
  3. invocux

    invocux Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2022
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    3,415
    His defence really improved in the last couple of weeks. He's no longer a black hole on defensive end.
     
    Ancient Moabite likes this.
  4. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,431
    Likes Received:
    5,844
    Was bringing the ball up court ever much of a problem? While I think his handles are still too loose, the biggest problem was Jalen not realizing his dribbling limitations.

    The question I would ask is when was the last time he repeatedly tried to dribble through multiple defenders in traffic? This one recent change has been HUGE for Jalen. When he sees a second defender waiting, he doesn't recklessly drive and get stripped.

    It took KD much of his rookie season to figure this same thing out. Regardless of how long for Jalen, it's better to turn the page late than never.
     
    Zen Tabak, BigMaloe and Rokman like this.
  5. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,730
    Likes Received:
    36,654
    His first two seasons I don't think a NBA coach could trust green to handle things like full court presses. So they definitely have been tightened quite a bit. Even Silas didn't.
     
    Arnel and Mathloom like this.
  6. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,431
    Likes Received:
    5,844
    Sorry, I meant vs. earlier this season, where (at times) his TOs were maddening and his handles looked worse than last year.
     
    BigMaloe and fchowd0311 like this.
  7. flamingdts

    flamingdts Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,558
    Likes Received:
    4,502
    Pretty absurd advanced numbers in the last 15 games.

    2nd highest net rating.
    Just behind Landale, but at twice the minutes played. Also very encouraging to see Amen right behind him.

    [​IMG]

    Highest +/-
    [​IMG]

    Probably the most absurd number of them all. He is the only Rocket where the team has a negative net rating when he is off the court, and by an incredibly large margin.
    [​IMG]

    Note that during this stretch, Green has practically played the most minutes (tied with FVV), so in the very short period of time that Green is off the court, the Rockets are significantly worse, but significantly better when he is on the court.
     
  8. harold bingo

    harold bingo Udoka Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2017
    Messages:
    3,472
    Likes Received:
    10,248
    Really impressive showing from Jalen tonight that showed real growth. In the past this type of game is where Jalen would shrink, get disinterested, and finish like 3/13 with 6 points. He stayed engaged, played active, and got himself going. Still somehow ended up with 27 points. This new Jalen is so much fun to watch too. Keep it up!
     
    DVauthrin, Richie_Rich, CKent and 8 others like this.
  9. Ancient Moabite

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2022
    Messages:
    2,091
    Likes Received:
    1,767
    Correct

    The game of sports is such a seesaw

    I think he went 3/13 or so in first half and went like 6/13 second half with 50% from three

    With an Ime Udoka cosign defense/effort via the playing time and post game shoutout (and halftime lecture)
     
    kpdark likes this.
  10. BigMaloe

    BigMaloe Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    13,822
    Likes Received:
    15,055
    Honestly man Jalen has found good SWAG.

    Like i remember harden and the boys would get hate for it and saying swag and swag kings and such.

    But it really is an embodiment. When you've got that feeling, that confidence, that mojo, your just locked, in that zone, is an incredible feeling.

    Its obvious Jalen is there right now and it's beautiful to see. Turn around 3s. One hand yaks. Crossover stepbacks. Hesi crossover drives. Its all a by-product of that "swag" or feeling of confidence.
     
  11. kpdark

    kpdark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2021
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    4,482
  12. kpdark

    kpdark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2021
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    4,482
  13. Corrosion

    Corrosion Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    8,930
    Likes Received:
    11,379
    You know I've been one of his biggest critics .... but I didn't ever really believe his handles were a problem, he's always had pretty good ball skills.

    I always said it comes down to shooting with Jalen, that's been the biggest inconsistency night to night .... One night he'll go 6/9 from 3 the next 0/6 and 1/4 rise repeat.
    He just has to limit those off nights which he has only 2 poor nights in the last 10 both of which were wins - SAS 1/10 and Sac 1/6.

    That's the biggest change - the ball is going in.

    Good for Jalen, good for the team and good for us fans.

    Hope he keeps it up.
     
    Ancient Moabite and fchowd0311 like this.
  14. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    18,343
    Likes Received:
    18,352
    So why is the ball going in more? You have to answer that question.

    This is exactly what it would look like if he were just improving. The beginning of a real improvement would look like he might be just having better luck shooting. We know what that looks like. It doesn’t normally come with better defense, rebounding, off ball play.

    The narrative that it’s all just a stroke of shooting luck is starting to sound highly questionable. His +\- when he has an off night shooting is better than ever in his career, he’s doing everything better even off ball and on defense. Is he getting defensively lucky too? That’s not luck. That’s better habits, choices, shot selection. Turns out 22 is not too old to improve those things. Imagine that.
     
  15. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,698
    Likes Received:
    43,199
    Landale is definitely playing at an All time high as well.... no way a 28 yr old career backup is playing like a sure fire starter and All Star like that.
     
    Rustyrig likes this.
  16. kpdark

    kpdark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2021
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    4,482
  17. mac_got_this

    mac_got_this Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2007
    Messages:
    9,180
    Likes Received:
    7,848
    Nah. @fchowd0311 right. Jalen isn’t being stripped or having those costly turnovers at the rim or in the backcourt for easy transition points. I noticed it too. Not sure why his handles aren’t consistent at this point of his career but amen goes through it too where some games it’s tight and then other games he’s loose with it
     
    fchowd0311 likes this.
  18. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,529
    Likes Received:
    51,968
     
  19. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    73,558
    Likes Received:
    19,845
    that's impressive!
     
    Easy, DVauthrin and Ancient Moabite like this.
  20. kpdark

    kpdark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2021
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    4,482

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now