Inside the Racist Republican Voter ID Sham in North Carolina

It's just so disappointing that in 2016 a major party would actively work to strip away the right for blacks and hispanics to vote and then try to package it as preventing fraud.

And yet this isn't even major news as the media doesn't even care. This is the most important thing for people to pay attention to - far more important than emails or what a great guy Putin is or even tax disclosures.

Why isn't this plastered on the front page of every media outlet?

This is the kind of stuff that pushes me so far away from the Republican party. This is why I can't trust that party. Because this kind of behavior at a party level is acceptable. It's not conservatism I fear - it's this level of cynical politics.

 

Typical All Hat and No Cattle Texx.

 

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Man I've been waiting for all the people that say black people have no grievances and everything is perfect now to show up and share their POV on this...

 

They will ignore this set of facts that points out the injustice just like they've ignored all the other studies and facts, and still claim that it doesn't exist anymore.

 

So sad that Republicans put restrictions on voting at the polls where there is no fraud but don't put any restrictions on absentee ballots where there is fraud. Just further shows that the true aim is to win elections. But that's obvious.

 

This is something most commonly heard from the left, specifically the "black people can't be racist" crowd.

 

What do you have to say about the thread's topic and not anonymous rep comments?

 

Guess he has nothing to say then.

 

I just thought it was funny that someone used the old "learn the difference between racism and discrimination" line against you. I have only ever seen that line pulled out by the people arguing that insert minority group can't be insert appropriate -ist/ism because they don't have power, and thus while they can discriminate, they can't be (for example) racist.

I don't particularly care a lot about Voter ID. I think the difficulty in getting government issued photo ID is negligible. I would prefer we more substantially limit voting (for example, limiting voting to land owners, disqualification of anyone receiving public benefits, maybe even limiting voting to veterans) because fully half of the people are dumber than the average person (and the average person probably isn't smart enough to have a worthwhile opinion on most issues of governance). Such radical changes would require a constitutional amendment, and by the nature of the process would require that people actually vote away their own voting rights (or forego casting a ballot when such is on the table) so it isn't going to happen.

I would not gameplan around race, though I can understand why a party that gets less than 10% support from a particular voting bloc would want to limit said bloc's participation from a purely mathematical perspective. I draw a distinction between things that are facially discriminatory (black people can't vote) and things which have a discriminatory effect (felons can't vote). If the rule is facially race neutral, I am okay with it. See above re: Voter ID.

I'm sorry I didn't see two one sentence replies in a thread two days ago. My response is above. You're welcome.

 

By your criteria, I can make the point that no one should be voting. Unless you are completely off the grid in some completely isolated place with no interaction to anyone, you are receiving some type of public benefits. Might as well be a dictatorship.

I know you don't mean it that way, but that's the level of dangerous in that type of thinking. I think your statement is full of ignorance and reflect that you are dumb. Certainly dumber than half of the people. Thus, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'm not deluded and never wrong.

 

Many people pay into the government for services. I am of course talking about the people that are getting direct benefits, not those that benefit from societal goods. If the government is paying for your food and shelter, you don't need to have a say in how the government is spending other people's money. If the government collectively uses your and other people's money to maintain a military and build roads, it is perfectly reasonable for you to put your figurative two cents in, as they are relying on your literal two cents.

You are welcome to your own wrong opinion.

 

Well hey, thanks for at least commenting in the thread and not doing your best to completely ignore its existence.

What's funny is his criteria would make a lot of sense...for Democrats. If the Democrats were trying to control voting then it would do so exactly as he planned out, that is trying to make sure more educated people vote.

It's simply a fact that the more educated a voter is the more likely they vote democratic.

Let's also remember that how the GOP treats minorities isn't lost on minorities. It'll always be less than 10% if their minority outreach is to marginalize their vote. When you add this to the decades long Southern Strategy you have to ask yourself who really is behind the racial 'division' that so many conservatives would like to put at the feet of Obama.

 

Europeans use photo ID's.

#bemorelikeeurope

 

What do you think about the contents of the thread and not a hashtag you made up?

 

My opinion is never wrong. If it can be wrong, I would never suggest who can or can't vote.

Over 100k houses in Baton Rouge and bunch of businesses just got flooded. Some community completely destroyed - resident can't return and businesses gutted. These are people of all colors, all incomes and all "smarts".

They ALL are eligible for government DIRECT assistance and most of them already have at least some level of assistance. Some of them will also get government sponsor loan that is up to 25 years at very low rate to rebuild their home and businesses. Some will get up to 2M loan to help restore their business. Some get up to 200K to help restore their house. Some get $2K for a temp housing. Some get grants up to 15K to rebuild 1 bath, 1 kitchen, 1 BR to a livable condition (because there is no housing left to be had in BR area due to wide spread damages). Some get grants up to 33K to rebuild their house over the long term. Everyone get extended time to file tax because it's recognized that the whole community, whether individual is impacted is not, can help each other and shouldn't worry about paper work for a few months.

You think these 'unlucky' people shouldn't vote - that's your level of crazy.

There are folks that build their business from ground up, work long hours and hard, then medical disaster strike a family member. They go bankrupt and are now living under government assistance.

You think these 'unlucky' people shouldn't vote either- craziness.

There are plenty of folks that work hard and long for minimum wage. They have to support their family. They take on a 2nd job but unfortunately it's still not enough. They get government direct assistance for food.

You think these hard working people shouldn't vote either - more craziness.

Go ahead and re-tune your criteria to find the 'dumb' people. But I already made my decision based on my internal logic that can never be wrong. You are dumber than average and should never vote.