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Ilhan Omar tweets and other news

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  1. fchowd0311

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    Ya that's what we call bigotry. A lot of conservative Americans view any Muslim American citizen criticizing America as an "outside criticism" rather than a citizen voicing their concerns about the country they live in. They give the benefit of the doubt regarding a white person criticizing America but a hijabi Muslim? No it's definitely because she hates America rather than you know being a US congresswoman who's job it is to highlight problems her constituents believe are problems.
     
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    Haven't seen any discussion of this.
    Ilhan Omar is my rep and I've been very critical of her and didn't vote for her. That said this move does appear to be more about retribution than anything that she has done. She has said some imflammatory and frankly stupid things but I don't see anything she has said is comparable to MTG or Gosar who supported undermining the US electoral system and an attempt to prevent the workings of Congress.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ilhan-omar-house-committee-republicans.html

    House Ousts Ilhan Omar From Foreign Affairs Panel as G.O.P. Exacts Revenge
    In a highly politicized vote, the Republican-led chamber criticized Ms. Omar’s statements about Israel, delivering retribution for the removal of G.O.P. members when Democrats held the majority.

    WASHINGTON — A bitterly divided House on Thursday ousted Representative Ilhan Omar of Minnesota from the Foreign Affairs Committee over past comments about Israel that were widely condemned as antisemitic, as Republicans moved to cater to the demands of right-wing members and mete out punishment to a Democrat their party has demonized for years.

    The 218-to-211 party-line vote, with one member voting “present,” settled a partisan score that has been festering since 2021, when the House, then controlled by Democrats, stripped Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Paul Gosar of Arizona of their committee assignments for social media posts in which they endorsed violence against Democrats.

    The removal of Ms. Omar delivered on a threat that Speaker Kevin McCarthy of California made at the time to retaliate if his party took the House majority by removing Democrats whom Republicans regarded as unfit to serve on committees. Last week, he unilaterally removed Representatives Adam B. Schiff and Eric Swalwell, both of California, from the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where membership is appointed and thus not subject to a vote.

    Mr. McCarthy’s decision to force the removal of Ms. Omar, a step that some of his rank-and-file members resisted, in the earliest days of his new majority demonstrated his determination to ingratiate himself with the hard-right Republican base, which has made the Somali-born Ms. Omar a target for some of its most vicious attacks. Former President Donald J. Trump famously said in 2019 that Ms. Omar and three other progressive women of color should “go back” to their countries, though she was the only one not born in the United States.

    The vote on Thursday was also a bid by Mr. McCarthy to curry favor with pro-Israel groups and evangelical voters and to drive a wedge among Democrats, many of whom had condemned Ms. Omar’s statements about Israel.

    In 2019, Ms. Omar drew criticism from Democrats and Republicans alike for tweeting that certain pro-Israel groups were “all about the Benjamins, baby,” appearing to refer to hundred-dollar bills in what was seen as invoking an antisemitic trope about Jews and money. She later apologized for the comment. Two years later, Ms. Omar seemingly equated “atrocities” carried out by the U.S. military to those committed by terrorist groups like the Taliban and Hamas; she later said she had not meant to compare them.

    Yet during an unusually raw debate on the House floor on Thursday, prominent Democrats, including many Jewish members, stood alongside Ms. Omar’s closest friends in Congress to defend her in passionate and at times emotional speeches. They accused Republicans of hypocrisy, xenophobia and racism for targeting her while saying nothing about antisemitic remarks by members of their own party, some of whom have associated with Holocaust deniers.

    “A blatant double standard is being applied here,” said Representative Gregory W. Meeks of New York, the top Democrat on the Foreign Affairs Committee. “Something just doesn’t add up. And what is the difference between Representative Omar and these members? Could it be the way that she looks? Could it be her religious practices?”

    Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, was more direct about the exiling of Ms. Omar, who is Black and one of the first Muslim women elected to Congress. “This is about targeting women of color in the United States of America,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said.

    Republicans were comparatively sober as they made the case for removing Ms. Omar.

    “Individuals who hold such hateful views should rightly be barred from that type of committee,” said Representative Mike Lawler of New York. “Words matter. Rhetoric matters. It leads to harm, and so the congresswoman is being held accountable for her words and her actions.”

    Mr. McCarthy and the members of his leadership team were nowhere to be seen during the floor debate, during which the number of Democrats speaking on behalf of Ms. Omar outnumbered Republicans two to one. After the vote, Mr. McCarthy defended the decision to remove Ms. Omar, telling reporters that it was “not tit for tat,” but based on her statements.

    “I’m not removing people from all committees,” Mr. McCarthy said, pointing out that Ms. Omar had been excised from just one panel, unlike Ms. Greene and Mr. Gosar.

    But his effort to oust Ms. Omar stalled and nearly faltered in recent weeks, highlighting the challenges Mr. McCarthy faces as he tries to make good on his promised agenda with a razor-thin majority that has already proved to be unruly. Some Republicans were concerned about being seen as hypocritical after they had railed against the removals of Ms. Greene and Mr. Gosar, and about the precedent set by expelling a lawmaker for her views and statements, particularly by a party that routinely condemns “cancel culture.”

    In the end, after days of haggling by Mr. McCarthy, all but one Republican fell in line, with Representative David Joyce of Ohio voting “present,” as he did on Democrats’ resolution to expel Mr. Gosar.

    Debate over the move turned raucous, particularly after Ms. Omar made a defiant speech defending herself. She drew cheers and applause from her colleagues as she declared, “Take your vote or not — I am here to stay.”

    Shortly before members cast their ballots, Ms. Omar charged that the move to expel her was an inevitable extension of the false “birther” conspiracy theory, promoted by Mr. Trump, that former President Barack Obama, the first Black occupant of the Oval Office, was secretly an African-born Muslim.

    “I am Muslim. I am an immigrant. And interestingly, from Africa,” Ms. Omar said on the House floor. “Is anyone surprised that I am being targeted? Is anyone surprised that I am somehow deemed unworthy to speak about American foreign policy?”
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    She deserves a committee assignment but probably not foreign affairs. Not a huge setback in her career.
     
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    Why not foreign affairs?

    Is it because she isn't a foreigner?
     
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    No, because of her antisemitism.
     
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    Huh? Does she like shout "Soros" or something? Or does she like hand out pamphlets of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
     
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    So is she Islamophobic when she says American polticians support Saudi Arabia and their near genocidal invasions and totalitarian society because of defense contract money?
     
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    Have you ever complained about George Soros?
     
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    All the time. Are you team soros? Even princess Pelosi denounced Ilhan.
     
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    I'm team "I actually understand the roots of what modern anti-Semitism comes from".


    You ever used the term "cultural Marxism"?
     
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    Bad move by Reps, Dems will just retaliate when they have the House.
     
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    Pretty hypocritical if Greene gets to keep at it. McCarthy is a scumbag
     
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    Why are people going after her daughter? Should leave politicians children out of it unless they are part of the campaign.
     
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    Protesting against a foreign country shouldn’t be reason to suspend someone. Let’s be real, there is real censorship going on here. There is not a single country on this planet where it’s a problem except for this one, and especially when you criticize the killing of innocent women children and aid workers. Tbh it’s pretty ****ing disgusting that the same people that virtue signal about rights and the constitution are trying piggy pack this

    For example, you and I can hold a view that American tax dollars should stay here and shouldn’t goto Egypt, Israel or Ukraine. The fact there’s such a big crackdown is what’s worrisome. They’re making the problem worse.
     
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    Agree that it's not a good look for the virtue signaling crowd. Then again, if I'm a jewish student having to go through pro-palestinian barricades day in and day out while paying an arm and a leg for the tuition, it's not something I'd be stoked about. Might ask for a refund. lol

    Why make campus a freaking display of your displeasure with something another country is doing? It's not columbia who is subsidizing Israel. Reminds me of protestors blocking highways and bridges making regular working folks suffer for 5 hours on a work day. Just being attention whores because attention is getting hard to come as people get fed up with either side conflicting being precursor to WW3. These people are using asymmetric warfare to get their attention now (they probably didn't expect to get suspended for it).

    I don't remember "occupy wall street" movements occupying campuses as part of their shtick.
     
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    The daughter got arrested for terrorist supporting political activism and trespass.
     

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