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If we flame out in the first round, do we trade Harden?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bleedroxred79, Mar 8, 2020.

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If we flame out in the first round, do we trade Harden?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    89 vote(s)
    53.3%
  1. J Sizzle

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    You’ve already wasted 5 first rounders on the Westbrook and Covington trades. Trading Harden is pointless. You’re not accelerating any sort of rebuild by doing so.
     
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  2. HP3

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    Er....yea you kind of are. Do you know how much of a haul Harden gets you....like a lot.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    When was the last time we had a 1st round flame out?

    Rocket River
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    I thought our expectations were higher than reaching the second round. Harden flamed out against a Kawhi-less Spurs. He also lost to the Warriors with Curry missing substantial amount of time in one of the 4 series we lost against them.
     
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  5. MrSabotage

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    Can't make guys fall down on catch and shoot threes. He'll want no part of that.
     
  6. J Sizzle

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    He'd get a solid haul, I bet, but probably much less than you'd think. He's over 30 making $45M a year. Outside of Paul George to the Clippers, where the Thunder had all the leverage to force it, older star trades always seem to get less than you'd expect.
     
  7. mfastx

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    Obviously not. The right move is to get a new coach. This team hasn't responded effort wise to MDA all season. Need more leadership from the bench.
     
  8. Sanctity

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    I thought Harden did get in shape via some evolutionary method not too long ago and was lighter and closer to his listed weight. What happened?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    CP3 left. He was in the best shape of his life in 2017-2018. The first time I've ever seen him take about his diet and eating clean was after CP3 got traded here in the 2017 off-season.

    CP3 was a very positive influence to Harden.
     
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  10. Zoplicone

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    Oh come on. That year and team was F’d. Cant shoulder the blame on him there.
     
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  11. J.R.

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  12. Sanctity

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    I think Harden reads this board and there's a bunch of way more overweight people, in terms of athletic standards, criticizing him but don't hold candle of remote fitness. Houston has a population of some fattest MothaF'z on the face of the planet so it does make for an awkward read for Harden.
     
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  13. fchowd0311

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    Never compare the general public to someone who makes 200 million dollars on his athletic ability.
     
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  14. Rocket River

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    What member of our team Stood tall and battle fought to the end in those series?
    Who was the person that gave the Valient effort game after game?
    Was that the Warriors with several future hall of famers in their prime on it. . . .which team beat that warriors teams?
    Who beat that Spurs Team?

    Rocket River
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    Definitely not Harden in game 6 against the Spurs. And his level of play mainly scoring efficiency drops more from the regular season to the playoffs than pretty much every other superstar who has a large sample size of playoff games.
     
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  16. Rocket River

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    So we can have teams play a box and 1
    Simply box the lane. . . on person keep harden from getting the ball
    and
    The same 3 people that cannot hit open threes now . . .will take all the open threes then ?
    That is going to solve the problem?

    Rocket River
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    The thing about off ball movement is that it creates more open shots than just open three pointers.
     
  18. elmotsang

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    1.Fire MDA
    2. invite defensive coach
    3. use back traditional center
    4. trade back cp3 and caplea

    If u shoot 3 like that u must have a traditional center. No center can shoot 2 to guarantee accuracy.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Answer the Question Jeremy
    WHO ON THE TEAM STOOD UP AND PLAYER BETTER THAN HARDEN IN ALL THOSE SERIES?!??!?!?!?!
    Also . .. . He is the ONLY PLAYER OF SUPERSTAR STATUS that the fouls against go DOWN in the post season ?
    Why is that ?
    He drives just as much if not more. . . yet he gets less fouls. . .but other Superstars fouls go up?
    Efficiency does drop when the refs target you . . . . .. . . .

    Until you can explain and not just say I HATE HARDEN over and over. . .I think we are done here

    Rocket River
     
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  20. Rocket River

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    Since you are not a Rocket fan . . who is your squad?
    Who is running the famed offense you love

    Rocket River
     

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