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How Would You Treat Yao Ming if US and China were in a military conflict over Taiwan

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by jxu777, Mar 21, 2003.

  1. Timing

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    It's not reality? :rolleyes: After 9/11 there were Muslim/Arab looking people murdered in this country, was that rational? Right now there are fights with people not standing up for Lee Greenwood songs and we're not even at war. Americans never act irrationally though. We've cornered the market on rational behavior, well yeah, whatever. You need to unplug yourself and get a clue.
     
  2. Timing

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    I meant at war with France! lol It's too late for this crap.
     
  3. Rocketman95

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    Well, the idiot Jim Lampley thought that Wang Zhi-Zhi should've been suspended during the spy plane crisis last year.

    What a r****d.
     
  4. HtownRocks3

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    This could've been posted Under the Rockets forum.
     
  5. treeman

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    Stupid topic.

    No war between China-US for the forseeable futuer (largely because of what is being done in Iraq right now). The main question of this thread has no real logical basis.

    Let's assume a war between Britian and France? Yeah, some of the people in both countries are pissed right now. So what? Trade relations dictate that a war can never again be started there... China is fast approaching the same security blanket with the US, only on a larger scale.

    Don't confuse history with past. There are things happening right now that have no precedent, and negate historical comparisons.
     
  6. jxu777

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    Nobody wants this to happen. But there is a meaningful probability that both US and China are pulled into that scenario. And that is a dangerously real issue. In China, almost all informed people know that the most important issue between US and China is the Taiwan issue. Though US has been criticizing China for a lot of other things, the Chinese people are not really ticked off in a broad perspective. It is the Taiwan issue that is built into the national syche and rocks people's nerve. Then you read and see and listen to what the US government and the Congress say and do w.r.t. Taiwan. Then you put all geopolitical implications together when China gets Taiwan back in fold.

    treeman, no sane people want this to happen. As I stated earlier, I don't want to turn this into a political discussion. This political debate has pretty much been beaten to death in both countries. But this scenario is not my fantacy. We can pray this will never happen. We can do out part to prevent it. But we ordinary people can't prevent our governments from doing irrational things, in both US and China.
     
  7. Cohen

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    jxu,

    Introduction


    Over the past two decades, China has emerged as a major participant in the international economy. China’s two-way international goods trade grew from roughly $28 billion in 1982 to $510 billion in 2001. In 2000, Mainland China was the world’s seventh largest goods exporter ($249.3 billion) and eighth largest importer ($225.1 billion).1 During the mid- to late 1990s, China became one of the world’s largest recipients of foreign direct investment (FDI). According to Chinese statistics, FDI flow into China in 2001 was a record $46.8 billion. To accomplish such sustained growth in exports and investment over the past decade, China’s leadership targeted technological modernization as the main pillar for such growth and steered the country’s trade and investment policies to support that objective.


    The importance of the United States to China’s economic growth during the past decade cannot be overstated. The United States is China’s biggest export market, a key investor in its economy, and a principal source of technology and know-how. Since trade relations resumed in 1978, overall U.S. trade with China has grown from $1 billion to $119.5 billion in 2000. From 1990 to 2000, the U.S. direct investment position in China grew from $354 million to $9.58 billion, according to U.S. Government figures. The U.S. capital markets have also been an important source of capital: the Chinese have raised approximately $20 billion dollars over the past three years.2


    Unfortunately, the U.S. role in China’s economic growth has some negative implications for the U.S. economy. From 1990 to 2000, the U.S. goods trade deficit with China grew seven-fold from $11.5 billion to $87 billion and surpassed Japan as our largest trade deficit. Such an imbalanced relationship has troubling implications for U.S. jobs and wages, as well as for the overall economic health of the U.S. manufacturing sector.


    In this chapter the Commission details the uniqueness and causes of the U.S. trade deficit with China and describes the shifting composition of China’s trade toward higher technology goods. We also examine the impact of U.S. investment on China’s economic growth and technological modernization. The chapter ends with the Commission’s assessment of the national security implications of these developments and recommendations in key areas.


    U.S.-China Trade


    China has had one of the world’s fastest growing economies and has shown substantial export prowess across a wide range of goods. In just the past ten years, China has experienced rapid growth in its goods trade, with total value soaring from around $100 billion in 1990 to nearly $510 billion in 2001. China’s worldwide exports outpaced imports for all but one of those years (1993), generating annual world-wide trade surpluses, albeit not huge ones.


    The U.S. Trade Deficit with China - The United States has played a significant role in helping China’s export-led growth policies succeed in a way that is not evidenced by China’s other trading relationships. The U.S. consumer goods market was the cornerstone for China’s growth in trade in the 1990s. As trade between the United States and China expanded, so too did the U.S. trade deficit. The growth of U.S. imports from China has far exceeded the growth in our exports to China. According to WTO data, in 2000, the United States took 41.3 percent of China’s total exports, while China purchased about 2 percent of total U.S. exports. From 1990 to 2000, U.S. exports to China increased from $4.8 billion to $16 billion, while imports from China leaped six-fold from $16.3 billion to $103 billion. The result has been a U.S. goods trade deficit with China that has ballooned from approximately $6 billion in 1989 to $87 billion in 2000. Notably, U.S.-China trade in manufactures accounts for virtually the entire U.S. trade deficit with China.3

    ...




    http://www.uscc.gov/ch2_02.htm

    The US account for about 25% of all Chinese exports, roughly equivalent to 1/3rd of Taiwan's GDP, and continues to grow rapidly.

    If the mainland was unwilling to invade Taiwan previously, I cannot imagine how you think it will happen now with the critical economic ties with the US.
     

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