Going Rogue

Vinsanity · Nov 17, 2009

So, Sarah Palin's book was released today. Anyone pick up a copy? If so, how is it?

http://www.metro.us/us/article/2009/10/30/06/5904-82/index.xml

Levi Johnston is going rogue ... elegantly Levi Johnston is indeed going full frontal in his upcoming Playgirl spread. “A lot of people are going to look at it as not [presenting] a good image, but we’re going to do it tastefully,” Johnston said Thursday in an interview on CBS’ “The Early Show.” Johnston claims he has no choice on going “full Johnston” — he’s the sole provider of his family since his mother was jailed after illegally selling OxyContin.

Poor dear. Once he gets out of Alaska for good, he’ll realize that “full frontal” and “tasteful” go together about as well as teenage sex and a condom.

finalsbound · Nov 17, 2009

omg, it's sooooo good. future president!

DonnyMost · Nov 17, 2009

My completely unscientific critique of her book.

Depressio · Nov 17, 2009

http://blogs.chron.com/nickanderson/archives/2009/11/full_stride.html

B-Bob · Nov 17, 2009

Tschmal, you have a schmal mind there. (wink)

Let me tell you reality has never stood on the hopes and fears of the great hardworking americans in towns across this land. Reality handed down from some all-powerful government or brought by illegal immigrants is not what makes this land the greatest continent on Earth. And the reality of energy will not affect me when I am president no sir and the reality of the Iraq.

Sweet Lou 4 2 · Nov 17, 2009

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Baqui99 · Nov 17, 2009

Even if someone bought it, I don't think they would want to go through the humiliation of admitting it here on this board.

Landlord Landry · Nov 17, 2009

Baqui99 said:

Even if someone bought it, I don't think they would want to go through the humiliation of admitting it here on this board.
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I'm pretty sure there is one member here who bought it, shamelessly.

If she gets nekked, I'll buy it.

Invisible Fan · Nov 18, 2009

Seems like Oprah will do anything to get Obama reelected...

Batman Jones · Nov 18, 2009

I will be so disappointed if she doesn't run for president.

mc mark · Nov 18, 2009

Batman Jones said:

I will be so disappointed if she doesn't run for president.
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The best and brightest of the republican party

Shooter3 · Nov 18, 2009

god I hope she wins the GOP nomination in '12. that sure would be great.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/200...-Palin-Book-Fact-Check.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
FACT CHECK: Palin's Book Goes Rogue on Some Facts

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 14, 2009
Filed at 11:18 a.m. ET

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sarah Palin's new book reprises familiar claims from the 2008 presidential campaign that haven't become any truer over time.

Ignoring substantial parts of her record if not the facts, she depicts herself as a frugal traveler on the taxpayer's dime, a reformer without ties to powerful interests and a politician roguishly indifferent to high ambition.

Palin goes adrift, at times, on more contemporary issues, too. She criticizes President Barack Obama for pushing through a bailout package that actually was achieved by his Republican predecessor George W. Bush -- a package she seemed to support at the time.

A look at some of her statements in ''Going Rogue,'' obtained by The Associated Press in advance of its release Tuesday:

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PALIN: Says she made frugality a point when traveling on state business as Alaska governor, asking ''only'' for reasonably priced rooms and not ''often'' going for the ''high-end, robe-and-slippers'' hotels.

THE FACTS: Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel (robes and slippers come standard) overlooking New York City's Central Park for a five-hour women's leadership conference in October 2007. With air fare, the cost to Alaska was well over $3,000. Event organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter. The governor billed her state more than $20,000 for her children's travel, including to events where they had not been invited, and in some cases later amended expense reports to specify that they had been on official business.

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PALIN: Boasts that she ran her campaign for governor on small donations, mostly from first-time givers, and turned back large checks from big donors if her campaign perceived a conflict of interest.

THE FACTS: Of the roughly $1.3 million she raised for her primary and general election campaigns for governor, more than half came from people and political action committees giving at least $500, according to an AP analysis of her campaign finance reports. The maximum that individual donors could give was $1,000; $2,000 for a PAC.

Of the rest, about $76,000 came from Republican Party committees.

She accepted $1,000 each from a state senator and his wife in the weeks after the two Republican lawmakers' offices were raided by the FBI as part of an investigation into a powerful Alaska oilfield services company. After AP reported those donations during the presidential campaign, she said she would give a comparative sum to charity after the general election in 2010, a date set by state election laws.

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PALIN: Rails against taxpayer-financed bailouts, which she attributes to Obama. She recounts telling daughter Bristol that to succeed in business, ''you'll have to be brave enough to fail.''

THE FACTS: Palin is blurring the lines between Obama's stimulus plan -- a $787 billion package of tax cuts, state aid, social programs and government contracts -- and the federal bailout that Republican presidential candidate John McCain voted for and President George W. Bush signed.

Palin's views on bailouts appeared to evolve as McCain's vice presidential running mate. In September 2008, she said ''taxpayers cannot be looked to as the bailout, as the solution, to the problems on Wall Street.'' A week later, she said ''ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy.''

During the vice presidential debate in October, Palin praised McCain for being ''instrumental in bringing folks together'' to pass the $700 billion bailout. After that, she said ''it is a time of crisis and government did have to step in.''

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PALIN: Says Ronald Reagan faced an even worse recession than the one that appears to be ending now, and ''showed us how to get out of one. If you want real job growth, cut capital gains taxes and slay the death tax once and for all.''

THE FACTS: The estate tax, which some call the death tax, was not repealed under Reagan and capital gains taxes are lower now than when Reagan was president.

Economists overwhelmingly say the current recession is far worse. The recession Reagan faced lasted for 16 months; this one is in its 23rd month. The recession of the early 1980s did not have a financial meltdown. Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent, worse than the October 2009 high of 10.2 percent, but the jobless rate is still expected to climb.

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PALIN: She says her team overseeing the development of a natural gas pipeline set up an open, competitive bidding process that allowed any company to compete for the right to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48.

THE FACTS: Palin characterized the pipeline deal the same way before an AP investigation found her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited a company with ties to her administration, TransCanada Corp. Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders during the process, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada.

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PALIN: Criticizes an aide to her predecessor, Gov. Frank Murkowski, for a conflict of interest because the aide represented the state in negotiations over a gas pipeline and then left to work as a handsomely paid lobbyist for ExxonMobil. Palin asserts her administration ended all such arrangements, shoving a wedge in the revolving door between special interests and the state capital.

THE FACTS: Palin ignores her own ''revolving door'' issue in office; the leader of her own pipeline team was a former lobbyist for a subsidiary of TransCanada, the company that ended up winning the rights to build the pipeline.

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PALIN: Writes about a city councilman in Wasilla, Alaska, who owned a garbage truck company and tried to push through an ordinance requiring residents of new subdivisions to pay for trash removal instead of taking it to the dump for free -- this to illustrate conflicts of interest she stood against as a public servant.

THE FACTS: As Wasilla mayor, Palin pressed for a special zoning exception so she could sell her family's $327,000 house, then did not keep a promise to remove a potential fire hazard on the property.

She asked the city council to loosen rules for snow machine races when she and her husband owned a snow machine store, and cast a tie-breaking vote to exempt taxes on aircraft when her father-in-law owned one. But she stepped away from the table in 1997 when the council considered a grant for the Iron Dog snow machine race in which her husband competes.

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PALIN: Says Obama has admitted that the climate change policy he seeks will cause people's electricity bills to ''skyrocket.''

THE FACTS: She correctly quotes a comment attributed to Obama in January 2008, when he told San Francisco Chronicle editors that under his cap-and-trade climate proposal, ''electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket'' as utilities are forced to retrofit coal burning power plants to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

Obama has argued since then that climate legislation can blunt the cost to consumers. Democratic legislation now before Congress calls for a variety of measures aimed at mitigating consumer costs. Several studies predict average household costs probably would be $100 to $145 a year.

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PALIN: Welcomes last year's Supreme Court decision deciding punitive damages for victims of the nation's largest oil spill tragedy, the Exxon Valdez disaster, stating it had taken 20 years to achieve victory. As governor, she says, she'd had the state argue in favor of the victims, and she says the court's ruling went ''in favor of the people.'' Finally, she writes, Alaskans could recover some of their losses.

THE FACTS: That response is at odds with her reaction at the time to the ruling, which resolved the long-running case by reducing punitive damages for victims to $500 million from $2.5 billion. Environmentalists and plaintiffs' lawyers decried the ruling as a slap at the victims and Palin herself said she was ''extremely disappointed.'' She said the justices had gutted a jury decision favoring higher damage awards, the Anchorage Daily News reported. ''It's tragic that so many Alaska fishermen and their families have had their lives put on hold waiting for this decision,'' she said, noting many had died ''while waiting for justice.''

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PALIN: Describing her resistance to federal stimulus money, Palin describes Alaska as a practical, libertarian haven of independent Americans who don't want ''help'' from government busybodies.

THE FACTS: Alaska is also one of the states most dependent on federal subsidies, receiving much more assistance from Washington than it pays in federal taxes. A study for the nonpartisan Tax Foundation found that in 2005, the state received $1.84 for every dollar it sent to Washington.

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PALIN: Says she tried to talk about national security and energy independence in her interview with Vogue magazine but the interviewer wanted her to pivot from hydropower to high fashion.

THE FACTS are somewhat in dispute. Vogue contributing editor Rebecca Johnson said Palin did not go on about hydropower. ''She just kept talking about drilling for oil.''

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PALIN: ''Was it ambition? I didn't think so. Ambition drives; purpose beckons.'' Throughout the book, Palin cites altruistic reasons for running for office, and for leaving early as Alaska governor.

THE FACTS: Few politicians own up to wanting high office for the power and prestige of it, and in this respect, Palin fits the conventional mold. But ''Going Rogue'' has all the characteristics of a pre-campaign manifesto, the requisite autobiography of the future candidate.

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AP writers Matt Apuzzo, Sharon Theimer, Tom Raum, Rita Beamish, Beth Fouhy, H. Josef Hebert, Justin D. Pritchard, Garance Burke, Dan Joling and Lewis Shaine contributed to this report.
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MojoMan · Nov 18, 2009

Virtually every time the name Sarah Palin is mentioned, the left starts foaming at the mouth and spewing vitriol. This says a lot more about you people than it does about her. You guys are a bunch of haters.

Shooter3 · Nov 18, 2009

MojoMan said:

Virtually every time the name Sarah Palin is mentioned, the left starts foaming at the mouth and spewing vitriol. This says a lot more about you people than it does about her. You guys are a bunch of haters.
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I'm not hating. In fact I love Palin. Her ignorance is freaking hilarious.

This has to be one of the dumbest answers I've ever heard from a politician.

COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? ... Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions.
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On a serous note isn't it scary that she could have been VP?

It's even sadder that she still might have a shot at winning the GOP nomination in 2012.

Shooter3 · Nov 18, 2009

MojoMan said:

Virtually every time the name Sarah Palin is mentioned, the left starts foaming at the mouth and spewing vitriol. This says a lot more about you people than it does about her. You guys are a bunch of haters.
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I'm not hating. In fact I love Palin. Her ignorance is freaking hilarious.

This has to be one of the dumbest answers I've ever heard from a politician.

COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? ... Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions.
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On a serous note isn't it scary that she could have been VP?

It's even sadder that she still might have a shot at winning the GOP nomination in 2012.

Sarah Palin Tells Rush Limbaugh the Magic Word

"I have, of course, all my life read. I'm a lover of books, magazines, and newspapers."
- Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin

"Sometimes, big shot, you don't seem to give me credit for very much intelligence at all. I've been to school in my life - and I'm a magazine reader!"
- Baby Doll

Sarah Palin took her book tour to the Rush Limbaugh Show this morning. The Oprah and Barbara Walters interviews have been fun, because they mostly just asked her about Levi Johnston, and it's gratifying that God sent him to ruin her life and save the Republic. (Sometimes God opens a door. And it's to Bristol's room.) But the Rush interview was different. To Rush's credit, he actually asked her about politics.

Policy. That's where she shines.

See if you can pick out a theme to her answers.

Unemployment?

But those commonsense solutions there, especially with the cutting taxes on the job creators? That's not even being discussed.
Healthcare reform?

Not when there are commonsense solutions to meeting health care challenges in our country... So lots of commonsense solutions that need to be plugged in before ever considering federal government taking it over.
The 2010 elections?

It's all about Americans who are hurting right now and what those solutions are that are so obvious, so commonsense that need to be plugged in.
The recent special congressional election in New York State?

They are seeking commonsense, conservative solutions to all the challenges that we're facing. I'm glad to see this.
Independent voters?

Todd's not a Republican and yet he's got more commonsense conservatism than a whole lot of Republicans that I know... But in answer to your question, I don't think that the third party movement will be what's necessary to usher in some commonsense conservative ideals... In Alaska, about 70% of Alaskans are independent. So that's my base. That's where I am from and that's been my training ground, is just implementing commonsense conservative solutions.
The Future of the Republican Party?

Let's go back to what Reagan did in the early eighties and stay committed to those commonsense free market principles that worked.
The overall message of her book?

It was just a lot of hard work and it was a lot of very commonsense measures that I undertook politically and practically speaking, and the book is about that, and hopefully people will read it and enjoy it and learn something from it.
In answering about a dozen questions, Palin said some combination of "solutions," "conservative" and "commonsense" twenty-five times. Is this an interview or a drinking game? Was Rush rewarding her by tossing her fish?

Her excitement got the better of her when she said, "But those common sense solutions there." This was a shoehorn too far, as the correct form, in Hillbilly, is obviously "Those there commonsense solutions."

Mencken identified those-there this as a perfectly good hill country adverbial pronoun. (His example, from everyday use: "Those-there wops has all took to the woods.") But he warned that the adverb promised to coalesce with the pronoun so completely as to obliterate all sense of its distinct existence, even as a false noun or adjective. Little did he know.

But splitting an adverbial pronoun, just to squeeze in one more "commonsense?" That's just wrong.

To be fair to Barbara Walters, she did ask Sarah Palin at least one political question: Did Palin think President Obama deserved a Nobel Prize?

Palin replied:

Maybe someday there will be some deserved event, and issues that he tackles that will allow that presentation of Nobel Peace Prize, and I'll be the first to applaud that but two weeks into office and he's already nominated? That's premature. -- Sarah Palin, Author
H.L. Mencken, your move.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/sarah-palin-tells-rush-li_b_361337.html
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The Real Shady · Nov 18, 2009

Invisible Fan said:

Seems like Oprah will do anything to get Obama reelected...
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lol. Nice. :grin:

Samurai Jack · Nov 18, 2009

Could someone please explain to me why the AP found it necessary to assign eleven reporters to " fact check " her book????

Mojo....you are right, the hate is incredible.

mc mark · Nov 18, 2009

MojoMan said:

Virtually every time the name Sarah Palin is mentioned, the left starts foaming at the mouth and spewing vitriol. This says a lot more about you people than it does about her. You guys are a bunch of haters.
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Actually, it says a lot more about you and your party that you and John McCain were okay with putting this piece of trailer trash a 72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency.

oh well...

FranchiseBlade · Nov 18, 2009

MojoMan said:

Virtually every time the name Sarah Palin is mentioned, the left starts foaming at the mouth and spewing vitriol. This says a lot more about you people than it does about her. You guys are a bunch of haters.
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I don't know. There is a lot to say about how dishonest, uninformed, and lacking in intelligence Sarah Palin is.

I think the left is fascinated that there is a portion of people who actually like her, that's it is like watching a train wreck every time she opens her mouth.

Maybe one day when she's president the "Department of Law" will be able to do something about it. I wonder who she'll appoint as Secretary to the Department of Law.

FranchiseBlade · Nov 18, 2009

Samurai Jack said:

Could someone please explain to me why the AP found it necessary to assign eleven reporters to " fact check " her book????

Mojo....you are right, the hate is incredible.
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They needed that many fact checkers because she's wrong that much. If she was barely wrong and didn't lie, they might have only needed one or two.

But yes it is very hateful to expose someone for being dishonest. How dare people expose dishonesty. What is the world coming to?

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